NAFTA's Value Coming Under Scrutiny

Posted on Tuesday, April 26 at 10:08 by notacolony.ca
The reason for this, particularly among some people who campaigned for the North American Free Trade Agreement, is a growing belief that Americans view the process set out in NAFTA to resolve disputes as largely irrelevant. Canada's continuing frustration over the softwood lumber dispute is seen as the prime example. The Canadian goal in free trade with the United States was to obtain a set of clear rules to resolve trade disputes. This, it was argued, would offset the ability of the United States to bully Canada because of its much greater power. Canada failed to get what it really wanted — an exemption from U.S. anti-dumping and countervailing duty actions. The Mulroney government settled for a second-best solution. Under the agreement, when there is a dispute over a U.S. trade action against Canada, as in the softwood lumber case, a dispute panel of Canadians and Americans can be established to determine whether U.S. law has been properly applied. If the panel finds it has not, then the U.S. tribunal must correct its decision. This is set out in Chapter 19 of the FTA. Since they launched their latest assault on the Canadian lumber industry in May 2001, the Americans have lost a series of panel reviews of their trade actions. But they have stubbornly refused to drop the penalties and return the more than $4 billion they have illegally collected from Canada. The core American position is that they don't have to turn the money back to Canada, and if Canadians want the $4 billion back they will have to make concessions to the U.S. Even though they have lost their case, the Americans have to "win." For many Canadians, softwood lumber has moved beyond a narrow trade dispute on a particular product to a symbol of the bad faith or untrustworthiness of the United States in resolving trade issues, no matter what the trade rules say. This was evident at this year's Canada-U.S. Law Institute Conference at the Case Western Reserve University law school. Simon Potter, a trade lawyer with McCarthy Tetrault in Montreal, warned that "we see a growing attitude in Canada, a deepening view, that the U.S. side has a much greater attention to technical detail rather than the spirit of the agreement and plays hardball, trying ever harder to get what it wants, despite NAFTA." He also accused U.S. trade officials of engaging in personal attacks and insults toward Canadians. Susan Esserman, a member of the U.S. Trade Representative's Office during the Clinton administration and now a Washington trade lawyer, indicated the United States did not like the NAFTA dispute settlement mechanism and noted it has not been included in any U.S. bilateral trade agreement since. Larry Herman, a Canadian trade lawyer, said "the United States would like to forget Chapter 19 and bury it." But from their viewpoint, the American approach may be rational. One Washington trade lawyer noted, "The United States regards Canadians as wimps and expects them to fold." Indeed, it's hard to see what Paul Tellier and Gordon Ritchie, recently appointed as mediators by Ottawa, are expected to do if it is not to find some way for the Americans to "win" this case. This is echoed in a recent Credit Suisse First Boston report noting continued U.S. losses at trade panels. The U.S. Department of Commerce "understands that the laws and treaties make it impossible for Canada to `win' in the real world, even if they win every time in court. It takes years to get through the courts, and by the time you do, the tariffs, duties and quotas the U.S. has imposed have completely wrecked the targeted industry in Canada. So who cares what the courts say." Not surprisingly, then, the Martin government's foreign policy statement released this week says there are "serious issues to be addressed with the U.S. — most notably involving respect for dispute resolution procedures." The removal of U.S. tariffs under free trade hardly affected Canadian exporters since most shipments were already duty-free. Fluctuations in the dollar mattered more. What mattered was dispute resolution since free trade was primarily a creature of Canadian fears of U.S. protectionism. But if dispute settlement doesn't work, what's the point of the agreement? Copyright Toronto Star Newspapers Limited. [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on April 27, 2005]

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  1. by hoopoe
    Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:15 pm
    What does your comment have to do with the article above? Every comment this person has made on Vive I have read comes down to this sort of propangda.

    I would ask that the Vive staff advise this person to ensure their comments are relevant to the topic under discussion but then how would they since they have no way of knowing who he is since they allow anon contributors. Please review your policy of anon contributors, as I have noticed a proliferation of them lately in the comments and even in the articles. It takes nothing to get a username (it's not even required to give your actual name) and it gives the rest of us the ability to know who comments are coming from and would allow you to properly monitor whether people are using the site correctly (how is anybody to notify you of people who may be abusing this site if they are anon?).

  2. Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:23 pm
    This anon has already been warned. Abuse can be sent to the editor - as on the front page box "Your voice".

    All you have to do is click on the # under the suspect comment, and send that url to editor at vivelecanada.ca, and we'll have a look.


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  3. by avatar Jesse
    Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:57 pm
    Once again, we will not restrict posting to registered users only, for reasons explained elsewhere on the site. Anonymity is a big part of free speech, and we are not going to restrict that. Off-topic-ness is not necessarily a bad thing, and it happens on most discussions. But repeatedly posting the same thing *is* abuse, and we will do our best to prevent that.

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    Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.

  4. Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:02 pm
    I'm not sure what the scuffle was about the anon comments since they were apparently deleted, but this kind of article and the deepening and hardening attitude towards the Americans it signifies could be the wedge we're looking for. We should understand that abrogation of the treaty will take years of effort, but perhaps this is the time to start up negotiations for admission to the EU. Maybe pointing out that we have alternatives with respect to our trade partner will make the Americans sit up and take notice. At that point it becomes win-win for us: we're in the EU and out of NAFTA or the Americans cave (they always do when confronted, they are your classic bully).

  5. Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:03 pm
    Scrap NAFTA!!!

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    Dave Ruston

  6. by avatar Jesse
    Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:43 pm
    I wonder how well a petition to join the EU would go over? It seems it would please at least some groups.

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    Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.

  7. Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:21 pm
    <p>NAFTA, Chapter 22, Article 2205: Withdrawal</p> <blockquote>A Party may withdraw from this Agreement six months after it provides written notice of withdrawal to the other Parties. If a Party withdraws, the Agreement shall remain in force for the remaining Parties.</blockquote> <p><b>Withdrawal from NAFTA is unilateral.</b> All the government of Canada need do is send a note to the governments of the USA and of Mexico, and six months later, <i>poof</i> — status quo ante!

  8. by avatar Spud
    Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:12 am
    SCRAP NAFTA!
    FUCK AMERICA!
    I am sick of their childlike whining.
    Trade with the rest of the world.
    Wake up Canada!!!!!

  9. Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:04 pm
    The most succinct comments came from Spud. I currently live in China and I cannot understand why we are not in a fair trade agreement with them. The Aussies are and their economy is booming. We have the materials China needs and China manufactures everything. (Much of our high-end manufacturing went south, literally, after NAFTA.) And textiles, a distant memory.

    Why do we insist on keeping ourselves prisoners of NAFTA. Fuck NAFTA, it isn't worth the paper it's written on and never has been. The dispute mechanism is only part of the problem.

    Becoming part of the EU is also a wonderful idea, if it would fly. They already do a huge amount of business with China and we'd be a good fit. If we are going to dump NAFTA as I think we should, we'd better drum up some new alliances asap, if we can wake up our elected representatives who are obviously asleep at the switch.

    To them I say, show some bloody leadership and lead us out of the valley of death, not into it. Serve us, not them.

    Paul Jonassen

  10. Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:10 pm
    I suppose I am risking my ability to use "Vive" to speak out on issues I consider important because I have said this before; but I have always believed that NAFTA is a very bad deal for most Canadians and many Americans as well. The lower down you are on the economic ladder in either country, the more likely you are to be seriously hurt by NAFTA, and the worse the damage is likely to be. It's a real bad deal, and it should be scrapped without further debate or delay.

    Despite the oceans of wretched propaganda which inundate us daily, threatening everything from total economic collapse to biblical swarms of grasshoppers if we even talk about scrapping NAFTA, the actual effect of its abrogation on our national trade would be small. The immediate benefits of "no more NAFTA" for workers, pensioners, students, the elderly and many others would be significant.

    I think if there were a dispassionate and totally factual debate on the benefits versus the human costs of NAFTA, most objective, fair minded Canadians would reject it.
    The corporate community with their rigidly-controlled media are really the only group in society to benefit from NAFTA, and they are desperately anxious to make sure no national NAFTA debate ever takes place. Somehow that opposition must be overcome, and the sooner the better.

    Finally, I have been wondering what the impact of NAFTA is on the current extortionately high gasoline prices. I haven't heard a single squeak of discussion of that topic. Canada is self-sufficient in all forms of energy. Why are Canadian gasoline prices based on the price in Chicago or New York? Those markets are so large compared to all of Canada, that even if everyone in this country stopped driving tomorrow, it would not impact "demand" enough to move the price downward. So much for "market forces". There is also a shortage of refinery capacity in the United States, much of which might or might not be intentional. Why should we pay for their perfidy or shortsightedness? Is this another one of NAFTA's many benefits? I am sure the small business operator who can't afford to keep his trucks on the road would really appreciate this one.

    And on it goes. Why can't we do something about it? I wish we could!

  11. Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:45 pm
    We don't need to join the EU. That agreement won't last. We should have mutual agreemtns that are not binding. the E.U. is horrible for workers as well and destroys culture due to unlimited immigration amongst the different countries.

  12. Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:47 pm
    I understand the attitude toward America and NAFTA, but I really have to object to the four-letter words showing up on VlC with increasing frequency. I'm from the old school of child-rearing and would like to protect my three children from this foul language. Wouldn't you agree that Canadian children are our best resource and that need to raise them properly?

  13. Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:49 pm
    <blockquote>[<i>IMPERATIVE VERB</i>] AMERICA!</blockquote> <p>This could be an example of a comment that anonymous Doc from New York would describe as being more anti-American than pro-Canadian…</p>

  14. Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:01 am
    EU workers spend 32 hours a week on the job, get 5 weeks vacation the first year of employment plus the entire month of August off, 6 months paid maternity leave for both mother and father regardless of whether they are married, get full heathcare, and retire at age 56. And they still manage to sell Mercedes Benz's to the Americans at exorbitant prices. What's not to like. Why are following the 60 hour per week, no heathcare, no pension model the Americans are promoting? Let’s join the EU – it’s a no-brainer.



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