U.S. Post-Secondary Education More Affordable Than Canada: American Study

Posted on Tuesday, April 11 at 10:08 by Alan Angold
The report, entitled “Beyond the 49th Parallel: Affordability of University Education,” states that in spite of higher tuition fees, American universities are more affordable because of the increased financial aid that U.S. students receive. “Tuition is a small percentage of money in education,” said Sean Junor, an analyst at the EPI. The data, which was collected up until 2001, shows that the average total cost of attendance for a Canadian university student ($8,336 a year) is lower than in the United States, where the average student can expect to shell out over $10,000 a year. Where the U.S. outperforms is in the amount of grant money and financial assistance available. In 2000-01, the Canadian government spent an average of $955 per student on grant aid, while U.S. students were provided with an average of $1,562 ($1,288 US). From the web page: http://www.umanitoba.ca/manitoban/2005-2006/0329/2701.u.s.post-secondary.education.more.affordable.than.canada.american.study.php

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  1. by avatar Carly
    Sat May 06, 2006 6:11 pm
    If you guys are going to steal people's work for your site, without paying for <br />
    it, the very least you could do is notify the author of the piece. And you <br />
    certainly shouldn't chop large portions of it, altering the balance and original <br />
    feel, without the author's permission. <br />
    <br />
    You left a link to The Manitoban, which isn't actually the original source; <br />
    they're allowed to use it though, because they PAY to belong to the Canadian <br />
    University Press, one benefit of which is the right to use The Cord's articles.<br />
    <br />
    Here's the original article, from the newspaper that Adrian Ma actually works <br />
    for, before its chop job: <a href="http://www.cordweekly.com/content/view/731/50/">http://www.cordweekly.com/content/view/731/50/</a><br />
    <br />
    Carly Beath,<br />
    Former Opinion Editor<br />
    The Cord Weekly

  2. by avatar Jesse
    Sat May 06, 2006 6:46 pm
    A short excerpt of the original article is posted here for our members to comment on. We do not psot the entire article for exactly the reasons you state; the original, full article is located elsewhere, and psoting the entire thing here would be wrong.

    Since we have *not* posted the entire thing, and we have *not* claimed that it is the full article, and we *have* provided a link to a full and complete version of said article, your argument sounds rather like a complaint that the author's thoughts are being widely read. I'm not entirely sure what you find offensive about that, but if the author feels *that* strongly about it, we will gladly pull the excerpt and refrain from giving them any more free readership in future.

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    "Beer Garden'? You mean, a real garden of beer? I thought they only had those in Canada!" --Largo

  3. Sat May 06, 2006 6:59 pm
    It doesn't have anything to do with 'stealing', as said, this is how this site operates, and is in fact how the web operates. Student newspapers,of course, are paid for by the university and students, which are still subsidized. However, there are plenty of links here for the CBC and even mainstream press.

    However, you can see who sent the message and they have a point that since the original is in the Cord, then it's odd to link it to a university paper who has taken it from them. However, keep in mind that the study certainly wasn't done by the Cord either, which means they are 'stealing' the information from the organization doing the study. Which essentially in the webworld is exactly what we want to see.

  4. by avatar Carly
    Sat May 06, 2006 7:28 pm
    There's a big difference between writing about the information in a study, which
    is what they're intended for, and taking the text of someone's article and putting
    it on a website.

    I understand the idea behind the website, and using excerpts. The problem here
    is that it's not very well executed. If you see the article on the front page, there's
    a link that says "Read More" which leads to the article on another page on your
    site. Nowhere does it say that it's only an excerpt; it says, "From the website..."
    which doesn't necessarily let people know that there's <i>more</i> to the
    article on that website. Not everyone is going to click on the link to find that out.

  5. Sat May 06, 2006 9:19 pm
    Not really. It's the same as anything else, so long as it's footnoted, then what's the problem? Right at the top of this article it clearly says who the author is and what paper. Then the link goes to Manitoba online, where the same info is.

    If Manitoba Online 'chopped' up the article then that should be taken up with them. This site operates in the way the moderator says, linking to stories that are not readily available. It's not plaguarism as the poster here makes no claim to have written it, and links his source. Again, what's the problem? In fact, since "The Cord" is a free student newspaper, it would be silly to talk about 'paying for it', because there IS no way to pay for it. If there were, then that student editor would be in a lot of trouble. If newspapers (and books) functioned that way then there would be no information out there.

    If somebody had just cut and pasted the article and claimed it was their own, then that's a different story, but we're far from that situation.

    The original article must have been some time ago, because I couldn't find it at The Cord's website, so it makes sense to link to an article that at least exists. Moderators and posters here have a living to make, unlike students, and don't have time to make such searches. No doubt it the original had been found, they would have linked to it.

    As it is, much ado about nothing. If people think this is 'stealing', all I can say is 'get used to it'. Because that's pretty much ALL this website does, and kudos to them for doing it.

  6. by avatar Jesse
    Sat May 06, 2006 10:22 pm
    Ahem, we *also* provide forums (currently offline for some security fixes) and actions like the current campaign against the Canadian Census brought to you by Lockheed-Martin(TM)...

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    "Beer Garden'? You mean, a real garden of beer? I thought they only had those in Canada!" --Largo

  7. Sun May 07, 2006 11:24 pm
    Are you too busy making a living? Or could you not have spared the few second it would have taken to check out the Manitoban Online and see see that the original poster chopped up the article and didn't even bother to cite it properly to indicate that huge sections were removed.

    If moderators and posters don't have the time to actually check up on the things they post, or for that matter, to even include proper citations, then maybe they should think twice about posting.



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