Suez Crisis Documentary

Are you for real. In 50-53 we went and kill in Korea,65 Canadians went to the Congo and killed Rebels under the UN flag, in 65-70 we fought and killed in Vietnam, in 74 Canadians fought and kill Turks in Cyprus, in 93 Canadians killed Serbs in the Medak Pocket ALL UNDER THER FUCKING UN Flag. So start reading history. Before you beek off.


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27 in the military, 9 tours.

I watched the same program and while doing so Googled to learn more. It appears the Arabs had full suport from the USSR. allowing Russia to have a navel base there. Nassar was doing what Chevez is doing today, nationalising. Britan & France had to much $$ to lose and (here once again) no control on the oil shipments. The USA was totally pissed because they were not invited. They had no use for Nassar either and the Egyptians close friends, the Russians. Consequently thay had to react They sided with the country who controled the oil, Egypt. Pearson comes up with the plan to have a neutral force to manage things and won the Nobel Peace Prize. The UN was the neutral force and should always be so.
I agree that today Canada is not going to win the peace prize and is certainly not neutral. If in 1956 they sided with the US or Britan & France, the world would be different today. That's the point "Armyguy". Canada has sided in Afghanistan and not the army they were in 1956. They didn't have expensive weaponry then but formed a function in stopping a serious war.

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"start reading history. Before you beek off."<br />
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excellent suggestion! <br />
and here is the REAL history you need to get before you *beek* off<br />
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<a href="http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewvideo.php?vid=cen_of_self1">http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewvideo.php?vid=cen_of_self1</a><br />
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armyguy ol buddy <br />
are the perfect example of the phrase, (A Little "Knowledge" Is a Dangerous Thing)<br />
You do know what you know and <br />
believe that to be enough <br />
go to the link <br />
It is a video, so you can listen. No printed material!<br />
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<p>---<br>The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

Britain and France used the Hungarian revolution to distract attention, but it failed.

There was a British pilot, I believe a flying officer, who pulled up the wheels of his Canberra bomber, pancaking the plane, as they were waiting to take off from Cyprus. He considered the war an illegal attack. He was court martialled, but I can't remember what happened to him.

The funniest was when Nasser warned the Brits and France that if they attack, he'll blow up the canal. They didn't believe him and when he blew it up, the papers were full of desperate shrieks " Nasser blew up the canal".

So, who gained and what? As is usual in all wars. A lot of people died, a lot of property was destroyed, a few military got their medals and nothing was solved. As there won't be anything solved in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

Mrs armyguy, little jimmie your mentally challenged special needs potty mouth son has got on the internet again!

Nice spin, here's another.

Britain owned Egypt, one of it's last imperial colonies. They raped and pillaged it and left the people in poverty (sound familiar?). Egypt's people got really mad, and a brave and charismatic man with vision, Nasser, was able to gain the support of the people, and took over control of the Suez canal system, peacefully, in what was essentially a bloodless coup.

The British started panicing, because they saw their empire about to collapse, and this was the final straw, cutting them off from moving freely to their other colonies (Hong Kong) in the Pacific. They mobilized a military force to take back the Suez by force, and hopefully crush the Nasser rebellion and arrest him.

The U.N. otoh, recognized that this was a democratically elected leader who had the full support of the people, and backed Nasser. By the U.N., I mean, the U.S. AND the U.S.S.R., and most of the other countries in the world, including Canada, for vastly different reasons.

I believe the primary motivation of the U.S., under Eisenhower, a particularly liberal, anti-war, anti-empire individual, and his exact words were, 'The US will never support Britain in maintaining it's empire', was I think is a pretty obvious statement about the fact that the US herself was once a former slave colony of the British empire, and had NO desire to support Britain's naked imperialism.

Then the USSR made a threat, which I think was a bit over the top, that the eventual outcome of allowing Britian to stomp all over Egypt might be atomic weapons falling on London.

I think at that point, the US realized that things were getting way out of hand, and really didn't want to get into a p*ssing contest with Russia over Egypt.

Then Israel had to stick her nose in, offering to attack Egypt to give the British an excuse to get troops on the ground immediately. The really funny part was that after the British secretly agreed, the Israelis sent a contract over to 10 Downing to get a signature. The British freaked and burned the contract on the spot, but the Israelis then assured them that was ok, they had kept a copy for their personal files (and no doubt used it to great affect for leverage in the coming years).

So the balloon went up, Israel attacked, Britain and France put troops on the ground in the Suez, and the USSR started threatening nuclear war. The US mobilized it's U2 force and confirmed, btw, that Russia was just bluffing again.

Lester Pearson drafted an emergency resolution in the UN, authorizing immediate intervention to stop Britain. Britain and France, of course, vetoed the resolution.

So he took it to the floor of the UN, and demanded the immediate formation of a peacekeeping force to stop the conflict. All countries (except Britain, France and Israel, of course) signed on, and this time it passed.

The force landed in Egypt, and Britain withdrew. For a brief moment in history, the arab world was in love with the US, and the dream of the UN seemed like it might work. The conflict ended peacefully, and a new democratic country was born in the middle east.

By the way we do pick sides on Tour, in Cyprus we picked the Turks and always gave the Greeks a hard time. In Somalia we hated all the smufties the same, in Bosnia the Serbs, in Kosovo the Serbs, in Afghanistan well the ones that are shooting at us. So UN Soldiers are not what you think. And any soldier that wants to just peacekeep can go and join the Boy Scouts.Soldiers are trained to kill, no help old ladies across the road. But we always there to help them.

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27 in the military, 9 tours.

Britain and France used the Hungarian revolution to distract attention, but it failed.<<

Hi Ed: I never did understand that part. Could you elaborate. The information just mentioned the revolution. Was it to stop Communisim?

Barney

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Good point! What the problem is now, is that we are there to help the Americans. They are the invaders and have done so before. The "insurgents" can very well be the result of prior interferance by the Americans. This is NOT a peacekeeping operation but one to control a country for the benefit of the USA. That is the point! Canada should aide the Americans when THEY are in trouble but NOT when they cause it. Canada has before and it's time this country realises; it is better then that. I personaly experienced what it is to accomdate our neighbour in circumstances where they WERE the problem. We went on the pretense of solving the problem. We only contributed.

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Play nice all!

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Really, we hated the Turks, we gave THEM a hard time, although we liked their cheap beer. We sided with the Greeks, simply because we lived on their side of the line and the Turks were so over-the-top militarist secretist. oooooh! don't take pictures of our 1950's soviet tanks! ooooooh! yeah, those are spankin' hi-tech gear, better hide those.

I really liked their giant turkish flag on the side of the mountain, though. That was Kewl. That takes serious attitude to do that.

So when and with who? For me 82 with the 8CH and 89 RCD/RCR.

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27 in the military, 9 tours.

bofaade...

I'm very busy right now and can only look at my computer for a few minutes at a time, once, or twice a day.

Go to google and type in " 1956 Hungarian revolution"

It was against Soviet occupation and the main personaliities were old communists, who were later executed by the Soviets, after they crushed the revolution. 200,000 left the country and Canada took the largest number of refugees from Hungary at the time, including the whole forestry faculty, incl. students and profs of the Sopron university, who were permitted to graduate in Hungarian at UBC. .

Cheers, Ed.

89/90 with 1 RCR. I took my drinking skills to new heights, and had the pleasure of dating an Iranian lady. It seemed to me that with us there, the Turks and Greeks had zero incentive to ever resolve their differences. They were quite content to sit there and enjoy the economic benefits of having a large UN presence permanently in their midst.