HAARP - Holes In Heaven?

Posted on Friday, February 11 at 10:27 by KevinGagnon

However, several researchers claim HAARP poses many dangers, including blowing thirty-mile holes in the Earth's upper atmosphere. They also warn of possible disruption of the subtle magnetic energies of our Earth and ourselves.

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  1. Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:42 pm
    Good luck affording it in the future. :)

  2. Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:08 pm
    Quote from documentary. "Ground based Star Wars plan, they call it anything but star wars to get funding".

    Could this project be linked with Bush Star Wars plan? Maybe. It scary this techonology though. Apparently it has just as much potential of destroying the earth as a nuclear war does.

    Kevin

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    "War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
    --Bertrand Russell

  3. Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:15 pm
    IIRC they Americans and Soviets have had orbiting ion weapons since at least the 1970s.

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    The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

    Winston Churchill

  4. Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:38 am
    GOOD POST, KEVIN!!!<br />
    <br />
    This guy <a href="http://www.brojon.org/frontpage.html">http://www.brojon.org/frontpage.html</a> has a little indicator on his site letting people know when HAARP is activated or turned off. <br />
    <br />
    Conrad Black's Jerusalem Post also has a good article on this. <br />
    <br />
    "But forget nuclear weapons; there's a much greater danger out there, one that could easily have caused the tsunami. It's called HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, which, according to its designers (<a href="http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen.html">www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen.html</a>) is "a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance for both civilian and defense purposes." <br />
    <br />
    Or maybe not, according to <a href="http://www.haarp.net">www.haarp.net</a>, which says HAARP is being designed as a weapon to control the atmosphere, the weather – and earthquakes. <br />
    <br />
    Some people get angry or indignant when they read stuff like this, but I try to be more understanding. It's a lot easier to blame George Dubbya for the world's problems than it is to think about why God would allow such a thing. <br />
    <br />
    Bush, after all, can be impeached. "

  5. Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:31 am
    That's the thing. So many htings in the U.S. are created and run by unelected officials.

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    The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

    Winston Churchill

  6. Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:33 am
    That being said, Tsunami's have always happened, and it was a temporary diversion. Anyone else think this was caused by HAARP?

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    The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

    Winston Churchill

  7. Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:37 am
    Well that is an interesting theory. But that requires evidence for sure.

    Kevin

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    "War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
    --Bertrand Russell

  8. Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:07 am
    I don't think the tsunami had anything to do with HAARP, though the rulers are fiendish enough to kill thousands of people, for sure. I think bringing this up actually makes us look a little tin foil hattish and we should use a bit of prudence and stick more to what have some evidence for.

  9. Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:59 am
    Evidence:

    The U.S. was slow and cheap in their tsunami response, meaning it likely wasn't a ploy for good will. :)

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    The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

    Winston Churchill

  10. Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:10 pm
    I wonder when we will learn humility lessons in regards to messing up with mother Earth. Some of their ideas on "who own" the spectrum are very worrysome. The biggest transmitter (or guns) win?

    In regards to the recent Tsunami, we need to be quite careful in claims that it was caused by a nuclear bomb or other man-made evil scheme. Some of these evil schemers will take advantage of the urban legend stories.

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  11. Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:09 am
    Hello gang, I was browsing through some old emails and came across the information to an Alternate Theory of Global Warming. This information was previously posted to Vive, as a running commentary. If you remember, It was the theory that global warming was caused by the removal of oil and gas from the earth... the draining of the radiator, if you will...<br />
    <br />
    Before I post the information, I want to draw attention to the Schuman Resonance, this bit of detail also crops up when researching HAARP. <br />
    <br />
    here's the link:<br />
    <a href="http://www.volconvo.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2244.html">http://www.volconvo.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2244.html</a><br />
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    The subject of global warming has been postulated and connected with removing subsurface oil.<br />
    <br />
    The theory is:<br />
    <br />
    "The outer earth surface rotates once every 24 hours, however the inner core rotates about once every four hundred years. The interaction between the constantly moving core and the surface produces earths magnetic qualities and friction that causes resonance. This is known, measured and recorded as the Schuman Resonance. The normal resonance of earth is 7.8 Hz.<br />
    <br />
    "Crude oil is found in differing amounts all over the globe, much like interconnected aquifers, only the vast pools where oil gathers are economically feasable to mine production.<br />
    <br />
    "It is believed oil acts as a natural lubricant and natural gas acts as a coolant between the inner core and surface plates. Removing the natural lubricant and cooling mechanism creates additional friction that over time begins to warm the earth, causing an increase in earth quake activity and collapse the magnetic field, hence surface warming not atmospheric warming.<br />
    <br />
    "The collapse of the magnetic field also produces spectacular electrical events (lighting) and surface storms as Earths biorythm is becoming out of sync as evidenced by the moving magnetic north pole.<br />
    <br />
    "The Schuman Resonance is normally 7.8 Hz, it has over time increased to todays 12 Hz. The resonance is again created by the friction between the inner core and surface plates. Remove the lubricant and additional friction is incurred, thusly the resonance and earths dynamic temperature increases.<br />
    <br />
    "If the theory is correct, TPTB do not want the people to know this is the cause of global surface warming and pole melt down. They blame the warming effect on CFC's, etc. and a host of other causes, ad nauseam, taking our eyes away from the true cause of the warming effect.<br />
    <br />
    "Lets go one step further here........<br />
    <br />
    "We are taught pursuant Boyles law of thermo dynamics that heat and cold cannot pass thru a vaccuum. This is the principle used in a Vaccuum THERMOS bottle. Outer Space is supposedly a vaccuum, how does sunlight produce heat after traveling through the cold, cold vaccuum of space??? Further, the higher we climb in the atmosphere, the cooler the atmosphere becomes, yet the deeper we burrow into the earth, the warmer it becomes.<br />
    <br />
    "It would stand to reason if the sun created the major percentage of earths heat, the higher we travel into the atmosphere, the hotter it should become, and the deeper into the earth we burrow it should become cooler. Yet, in the real world it is completely opposite. Hence, the major percentage of earths constant surface temperature is produced by the earth itself from;<br />
    <br />
    A) The molten core<br />
    <br />
    B) The friction between the core and surface plates<br />
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    C) A combination of the above<br />
    <br />
    "Again if the theory is correct, such info would plunge mankind and the entire oil based economic system into chaos. A new dark ages would immediately begin.<br />
    <br />
    "Edward Teller advanced the concept of global spraying of fine reflective particals to reflect sunlight back into space (chem trails) to diminish the suns heat by 1% to help offset what TPTB claim is the cause of global warming, "green house gasses."<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.ncpa.org/pi/enviro/envpd/pdenv125.html">http://www.ncpa.org/pi/enviro/envpd/pdenv125.html</a><br />
    <br />
    "I suspect this is part truth and part fiction. If the earth itself is heating up due to removal of oil and natural gas, then all the spraying in the world will not stop the effect. The promulgated story has us looking upwards and at green house gasses instead of downwards where the real problem lays.<br />
    <br />
    "Yes, in part green house gasses are somewhat to blame, but not to the degree it is said to effect earths temperature. This cannot be true, as volcanos and the natural break down of organic matter would have destroyed life on the orb long ago.<br />
    <br />
    "When TPTB say look up, I look down. Do you think the controllers would admit that pumping billions of barrels of oil has created a global catastrophe? Not on your life!"<br />
    <br />
    "Look around, the weather is abnormal, earth quake activity, electrical activity and magnetic activity is increasing and becoming more volitile as we pump the remaining supply of oil and nat gas from the ground. Oh and blaming the elusive Planet X, pole shift, etc.......,just a cover story for the sheep to never discover the real reason for the coming environmental catastrophe."<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Something is interfereing with the Schuman Resonance. One theory says it could be HAARP, see the 'volcano' link. Another theory is as above. <br />
    <br />

  12. by avatar Spud
    Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:08 pm
    Interesting stuff.Problem is evidence.What about earthquake in Iran?Does anyone else out there have more info?



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