To The People Of Caledonia And All Canadians

Posted on Saturday, June 10 at 08:28 by Anonymous
Always, it has been Canada doing something it has no legal authority to do, and then we are left no choice but to do - something like what's being done near your homes now. Sometimes people got hurt in the past - sometimes 80-year-old women were arrested, young men were killed, little girls were traumatized, mothers were terrorized... Always, these things happened because Canada allowed it to happen - because Canada refused to accept it's role and responsibilities on this land. You see, Canada prefers to maintain its image over enabling peace, enhancing democracy, and providing justice (to itself) even if it's at the expense of its own people, or of separate Nations like the Haudenosuanee Nation. http://intercontinentalcry.mahost.org/unitytalk/viewtopic.php?pid=286#p286 [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on June 12, 2006]

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  1. by avatar Milton
    Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:40 pm
    Good post anon, I took this quote from a bit further on in the article

    "Moving along, to better understand all this, I'd like you to imagine for a moment --- imagine that some guy from some other town came to your home and told you he claims your house as his own. He tells you he doesn't recognize you as a human being, so he takes you into your back yard, chains you to the fence, and then hands you a piece of paper that he tells you to sign. He says, "You can live here in Peace with your family, and I will live in the House with my family". You sign it in good faith... Then he walks back into his house, leaving you with a spoon and some alcohol.

    Now imagine this was done to every single Caledonia Citizen.

    Now imagine this was done to every Canadian.

    Not only has this sort of thing happened collectively to the Indigneous People of this Continent, but in Canada alone there are currently 6000 unresolved land claims, thousands of cases for Residential School abuses, hundreds of Billions of dollars we are owed from treaty agreements, and the perveted idea that we are wards or subjects of the Government of Canada."

    Looks like the criminals are in charge of the country.

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    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
    (Albert Einstein)

  2. by baybye
    Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:56 pm
    With your post in mind, perhaps you can explain who were the native folks who harrased the old German couple (in their late 70's at least), from Simcoe yesterday who stopped on the highway in Caledonia opposite "your land" in curiosity to look at "new houses" and who likely knew very little about the dispute ? Natives surrounded their car, harrassed them and followed them to the nearby Canadian Tire parking lot and continued to harass them by yelling at them and jumping on their car damaging it. The old gentleman had a heart attack on the spot and is in hospital as we speak. Nice way to ruin an old harmless couple's day wasn't it.
    Moreover a half dozen of the same heroic non-violent natives you speak of attacked a Channel 11 film crew and did bodily harm two to men who were filming the incident in the Cantire parking lot with the old couple from over 150 feet away. They charged the film crew also stole a tape from the camera and caused damage to the expensive broadcast quality camera by throwing it to the ground. One of the film crew has 2 staples in his head from a wound caused by "non-violent natives" and the other was repetedly punched in the face and head until he surrendered his equipment. Luckily he didn't require medical attention. I won't give you the link where you can verify this but try these sites: Hamilton Spectator, CP, Toronto Star and the London Free Press or Google News for starters. There are photos of the man's bloody shirt and video of the old German woman who is totally distraught and scared to death for her husband over the attack of the non-violent native heroes of Caledonia you mention. That is if you are not too lazy. Touche.
    Please re-check your spin notes and the aforementioned websites, return here and appologize to readers and participants because your post is bunk and you now know it.

  3. by avatar Milton
    Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:29 pm
    Well, GFY baybye! You should provide the links.

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    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
    (Albert Einstein)

  4. Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:58 pm
    I found the following on google by typing Caledonia Violance.<br />
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    <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Caledonia+violence&spell=1">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Caledonia+violence&spell=1</a><br />
    <br />
    One may assume with that search and results,this is no longer a peacefull domonstration. <br />
    Perhaps natives lived on my land one hundred or so years ago. And now tell me that my hard work to earn it today, don't count. Am I to shrug my shoulders and give it all up?<p>---<br>Expect little from life and get more from it.

  5. by Cinner
    Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:59 pm
    I grew up along side natives all my life, going to school with them and even some of my best friends are native... I have learn "The Ways" (Objibway) that your people are suppose to live by... If I was native, I'd be ashamed...

    It is time for your people to join our society or stay out.. You can't have everything and expect more from our goverment...

    If you want more you must give back!!!.... Like your status... You want the land..fine have it... but starting Monday you start paying tax's and so on... then you will know for sure what it is "THAT'S MISSING" in your life.
    No more free schooling, start paying incometax on paychecks....if working that is... so on and on... You get everything for free, heck you get a goverment check every month just for being native...

    And yet you want more???

    I was born in Canada, lived here all my life... doesn't that make me a "NATIVE" too?

  6. by RPW
    Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:18 am
    Did you <b>PAY</b> the natives who lived on <b>"your"</b> land, for the privilege of you moving onto it? Didn't think so...... <p>So I have this bridge you may want to buy...........it's a bit of a fixer upper, but with a little hard work, some spit and polish, you can have it spanking new, and then you can charge tolls if you want.......better hurry though (and I would be pleased to take payment in cash...)</p> Guess you didn't read this bit from the article and posted by Milton: <blockquote>imagine that some guy from some other town came to your home and told you he claims your house as his own. He tells you he doesn't recognize you as a human being, so he takes you into your back yard, chains you to the fence, and then hands you a piece of paper that he tells you to sign.</blockquote><p>---<br>RickW

  7. by RPW
    Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:25 am
    And I am sure the predecessors of these "hooligans" were mighty pleased to be the recipients of smallpox, which destroyed in wholesale lots the INNOCENT women and children in native American villages: <blockquote>It was introduced to the Americas by Spanish explorers. Credited with the extinction of the indigenous Amerindian populations of the Caribbean islands by 1519, smallpox also contributed to the conquest of Mexico and Peru. In the 1760s Sir Jeffrey Amherst ordered the deliberate spread of the disease among Native Americans participating in Pontiac's War in western Pennsylvania.</blockquote> http://www.americanforeignrelations.com ... llpox.html <p>---<br>RickW

  8. Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:11 am
    Did you PAY the natives who lived on "your" land, for the privilege of you moving onto it? Didn't think so...... <<

    I assume they died over 100 years ago.
    How about you? Do's your landlord or your parents or the previous owners of your domicile pay the natives? Did you request permision to be alive and live on their soil? Give it up. If you want to punish someones ancestor, who came to this country and stole the land, then hang those people. Crimes are not hereditary nor punishable after 100 years. Where nomads lived and buried their dead was a secret to them.

    If the Natives want to go back a hundred years then they are fooling themselves and so are you. If they wnat to fight the land deed, then do so today in court. They have accepted "whitemans ways" so why make the exception on this particlar subject.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  9. Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:32 am
    then you can charge tolls if you want.......better hurry though (and I would be pleased to take payment in cash...)<<

    Is this one bought and paid for by the government with taxpayer dollars? Will natives be standing on each end expecting their toll fee's as well? Will the government "give" them the bridge and allow them to apply the toll themselves?

    Do you think that natives "owned" the land before it became Canada? Why would you think that?


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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  10. Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:37 am
    Natives get special economic status and racially-based governments, yet the majority is still blamed when they underachieve.

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    "True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

    -Patrick J. Buchanan

  11. Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:33 am
    <p><i>I was born in Canada, lived here all my life... doesn't that make me a "NATIVE" too?</i></p> <p>As a "native" Canadian, in the sense you describe, you should know that an official, legal relationship between the Crown and the people of Indian Country began with the Royal Proclamation of 1763, a document that applies to the people who inhabited this land when European explorers and settlers first arrived but which probably does not apply to you. <p>In the US there was a history of Indian Wars, genocide and subjugation. In Canada, there was betrayal and abuse. There was racism, and there were attempts to obliterate or extinguish native culture. But there was no defeat, no wars, no prerogatives gained through conquest. Except for the Riel Rebellion which is also a uniquely Canadian phenomenon and has nothing to do with the Caledonia situation. <p>The people of the Six Nations lived on both sides of what eventually became the border. Six Nations people were allies of the Crown in the Seven Years War, not enemies. Later they lost some of their land in the American Revolutionary War. The Crown compensated its Six Nations allies by giving them a large tract of land along the Grand River called the Halimand Tract. The Caledonia dispute is about a portion of that land. <p>Canada has an unbroken history of treaties and other agreements with most of its First Nations except for large parts of BC. Each of the original nations has its own narrative, not only with the Federal and Provincial Governments, which did not exist during much of that time, but also primarily with the Crown which has been viewed as a kind of "court of last resort" and of course with the Creator who stands far above all the rest. <p>That relationship should be honoured, as should your relationship with the Crown. But it would be delusional to think that they are the same.

  12. by Tom54
    Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:35 pm
    : Are you a Racist
    Just a little to think off .
    Are you a racist?

    You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
    You call me "Whiteboy", "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and you think it's OK.
    But when I call you, nigger, Kike, Towelhead, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink you call me a racist.
    You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
    You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP. You have BET.
    If we had WET(white entert ainment television) we'd be racists.
    If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.
    If we had white history month, we'd be racists.
    If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives, we'd be racists.
    If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.
    There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US, yet if there were "White colleges" that would be a racist college.
    In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
    You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
    You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.
    I am proud.
    But, you call me a racist.
    Why is it that only whites can be racists?

    This is for all the Natives how are using the word racist a little to much ,just a little to think off

  13. by avatar Milton
    Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:14 pm
    Tom54, yes you are a racist.

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    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
    (Albert Einstein)

  14. by RPW
    Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:24 pm
    As usual with you "types", you miss the point. You are the one bitching about how your "rights" may be threatened, when it turns out you have no rights at all. You are living on stolen land. If you buy a stoeln vehicle under OUR laws, it may be confiscated with no recompense. So be prepared, buster! And quit your bitching. <p> - Leviticus 26</p> <blockquote>You will die among the foreign nations and be devoured in the land of your enemies. Those still left alive will rot away in enemy lands because of their sins and the sins of their ancestors.</blockquote><p>---<br>RickW



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