Activists Revive Canada Seal Hunt Protest

Ohhh Paris Hilton! There's a great spokesperson. I'm suprised at her shirt. I mean, the fact she's wearing one.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

To think that money did that to her brain.

Oh, I forgot, she\'s a blonde !!

(Only Kidding, REALLY !!)

Her mouth isn\'t much better !

BTW, I read a very good story about seal hunting last year. It\'s like any other kind of hunting, they do not mistreat the animals, it\'s a quick kill, very humane.

The reporter was on the ship with the hunters for some time, and went through some rough seas, but her admiration for the way they treated the seals was very honest.

The baby seal hunt was the one that got the most attention, simply because of the method they used for the kill, but it was quick as well.

It just didn\'t look good on the front page of the newspaper.

Hunting is a way of life in parts of the world, and if the herd is sustainable, there is no harm done.

I do not hunt anymore, but I used to enjoy the tracking and social aspect that goes along with it.



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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

You know, the Americans should ask the schools to take the students on a tour of an abbatoir sometime, and let young people see exactly how we produce those lovely red steaks and roasts that we see in the supermarkets.

I\'m sorry, I have no common ground with the do-gooders and activists against the killing of animals. We all do it thousands of times every day.


It is how we eat and survive.




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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

You should go vegetarian!

Who is Paris Hilton and what does she know about seal hunting, pro or con?

I agree. Everyone should work on the kill floor, if only for an hour. Your dinner comes at a price, you should learn the cost.<p> I worked on one for 6 months. It will change you, and it's the only profession where you get excused from jury duty.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

She's a member of the 'Hilton' family. Made famous recently because her boyfriend was making tapes of them bumping uglies and posting them on the 'net. Just try doing a search for "Paris Hilton movies". <p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

the elites have targetted the fur trade for some time now. Why?

answer: Because the fur trade represents freedom. Y\'see, they don\'t want you to be self sufficient in clothing and meat (a bi-product of the fur trade is the food value). If you did that, then you\'d get all these funny notions of standing up to oppresive regimes, not using their phony paper money, and fighting debt enslavement.

always gotta look beyond the facade, folks

unfortunately, not too many people here do dat.

You've got some interesting attitudes and views. Most of us here are very well read, but don't see through any 'facade' because we don't see any facade.<p> We don't assume malice from our fellow man, and we attribute any malice we see as more easliy explained by stupidity. I for one am quite capable of living off the land if I needed to, but there are other things I desire which require my time.<p> If this 'regime' is so opressive, why is it that you are free to express your opinions as you see fit? Why don't you try writing an article or two showing us the other side of the coin? I for one, think posts like your above show severe L D S consumption, but I'm always interested in another point of view.<p> Show us this 'opressive regime'. The entire wealth of knowledge called 'the internet' is at your disposal...<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

This IS a VERY oppressive regime! They`re not coming to your door in the middle of the night and hauling you away to the gulag (yet) but they`re assaulting people financially. People are losing jobs, good paying jobs, and can`t find other jobs that pay similar wages. Benefits are being cut. People are losing their homes. Now with the Stelco thing, Hamilton is about to experience what the Niagara region has gone through over the last 20 years. Health care has been cut. People have died waiting for hospital beds. People in Walkerton died because the Harris tories privatized water testing. Only rich people can afford a good lawyer or a good education. Canada`s government helps the US ship a guy off to Syria to be tortured. Dudley George of ipperwash fame was shot dead by the OPP Harris gestapo. Protesters in the APEC summit in BC were brutalized. Quebec City too. I can go on and on, but again, it is a FACADE. Sure, you`re free, that is, if you have the cash!

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Dave Ruston

So, you are not free to get a different job? You are not free to move somewhere they have better healthcare? You are not free to get an education that pays better?<p> If you were a millwright, I could get you a job in under 30 minutes that pays $50 to $70 an hour. All you have to do is move there. If you knew how to drive a truck, and were willing to move, I could get you work for 16 hours a day, earning $20 to $25 an hour!<p> You can't expect the jobs to come to you, you have to go find them.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

Sorry Dr.Caleb, you make it sound just a little bit too easy.

I just turned 60, and let me tell you, age discrimination is alive and well.

I have experience in many fields, but I live in Central Ontario, where jobs are scarce. I personally haven\'t had a job since 1996. Most are seasonal, so that means people have to live on $14k per year, so most young people move to the city, make their fortune and then return home to retire.

How about the company that closes its doors, firing employees with 20 and 30 years experience and shipping the jobs overseas or to Mexico. That is happening big time, and those jobs are gone forever.

Some of the trouble with a small community in this area is that when the big contracts come up, they usually (almost always) hire the large firms from Toronto. I\'ve been an active opponent against this policy for many years, but change isn\'t coming soon.

I did see an item on the news this week telling of a small town in northern BC that is hiring all kinds of workers with skills.

At my age, I would be willing to take the plunge for some of that.

Keep me posted. Thanks.



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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

Some interesting points here; about the fruit and veggies, not sure about the modified part, but I talked to a person who owned an orchard in B.C., the way she told it was; the best fruit is picked and sent out of the country, the not so perfect fruit is held in Canada, sprayed with something to stop it from ripening and it stays that way sometimes for years, before it gets to the store it is sprayed again, to start the ripening process. So the fresh fruit you get is actually last years stuff, yum yum.

I do think the fur trade has it\'s place, even if it is unpopular. Fur is warmer than synthetic. I would rather be called up for jury duty than work in a slaugher house, although some crimes against humanity are probably more disgusting than a slaughter house!

As far as going anywhere to find a job...I agree you can, but I disagree that should have to. If a person is single it is usually fairly easy to pack up your belongings and find work where ever, but if you own a home, have a few children to pack up as well it\'s not so easy. I think government should be encouraging new jobs in areas already developed, so that communities are not devastated. You end up with ghost towns otherwise, cause who is going to buy your home if there are no jobs in that area. Plus everytime one town is killed, so are lifestyles, friendships etc., we are not nomadic people, like the Native people once were, and if we expect to form good governments we have to start with groups of people. You can\'t do that if people keep moving, as there are no connection, no loyalties. Why do I care about a body of water being polluted downstream( as an example), first of all, because I\'ve lived beside it forever(or so it seems), it is part of me? Farmers who own the family farm, ought to be helped and encouraged to keep the tradition alive, most of them want to, but end up leaving the farm, because they can\'t sustain a family. That is wrong. When the family leaves the farm so eventually do the towns around the farming, as without families there is no need for the town. A corporation isn\'t likely to walk into town to buy clothing and supplies!

I just think that government ought to be involved in helping to establish communities where communities already exist, that way we are not constantly destroying good farmland etc, to build new communities. Moving shouldn\'t be forced upon people, in order to survive, if you ask a child that lived through years of following a father or mother seeking work, you\'ll mostly hear that their was no sense of home, no connections to community, a constant state of unsettlement. That is not what builds a country, in my opinion.

That was one town which I was referring to - Fort Nelson, BC. Fort McMurray, AB (Newfoundland's 2nd largest city) and Yellowknife are all hotspots. If you have any sort of trade skills - carpentry, roofing, electrical etc, you'd have more work than hours. Yellowknife is a great town!<p> I agree with C. Whalen below, the government should be keeping as many jobs as possible local, but some jobs are impossible to move. You have to move to get them. Forests won't come to you, diamonds are in the ground - you gotta dig them up, etc. I have no doubt that you, an older gentleman, or her, a single mother would have difficulty pulling up roots and going where the jobs are, but I know thousands of Newfs who did. Fort McMurray AB is unofficially Newfoundlands second largest city because the population of Newfs there is second only to St. John's NL <p> I was just trying to contrast Dave's point that if he can't get a good paying job it's not because there aren't any, there just aren't any where he is. I've done it. I moved from Edmonton to Fort McMurray for 8 years to work hard and get paid obcenely well. And I moved back when I was paying $1000 a month for a 20 year old 1 bedroom basement apartment. I have a great skill set now, and look back fondly on my time in the North.<p> That's the rub with towns that have more work than people, and more people than places to put them. Imagine earning $75,000 a year, but living in a tent in a campground because that's the only place to put a pillow in town. Happens all the time in places like that.<p> I feel for your discrimination though. The company I work for has been bought by a big American competitor. Most of the people at Corporate have been with the Canadian owned company for 25 years, and are apporaching retirement. They will be redundant in the new company, and my job will most likely move to the new companies IT center in Conneticut. I won't be following it, but I can find another job. Others like the Vice President won't be able to due to their age. It's sad, but no one will want to only get 5 or 10 years out of someone, even those those 5 or 10 years are from a well seasoned professional.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato