Le Démantèlement Du Mur De Berlin Selon La PRAVDA

Posted on Thursday, March 09 at 11:35 by gaulois
Rêvons pour un tout p'tit moment. Compte-tenu de notre environnement médiatique FHQ de "sous-développés" en détresse, y-a-t-il une comparaison à faire entre ce qui se passe dans nos médias officiels FHQs et la nouvelle "scène" de l'Internet? Couvriront-ils éventuellement le Net FHQ qui met le monopole médiatique au défi? Que pourrait bien être l'équivalent du démantèlement du mur de Berlin??? Le Canard ne peut que penser à une prise en charge collective de l'encadrement du discours civil FHQ? Une nouvelle forêt ne voit-elle pas le jour même si personne n'est là pour la voir prendre forme à partir de ses arbres? A chacun donc son tit'arbre... Et qu'il soit franco plutôt qu'anglo.

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  1. Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:41 am
    Of course I think internet media offer a much more free counterpoint to established media. But comparing it in the terms of "Free media" versus "Anglo media" is complete idiocy, because no such distinction exists. French owned traditional media is just as biased.

    I think the poster is a separatist.

  2. Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:36 am
    And long live to Karl Marx.

    ???

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  3. Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 am
    PS Have you actually ever paid any attention whatsoever to FHQ medias??? They have actually converted me from a federalist to a méchant séparatiste. On that basis I would argue that they are as "separatist" as Chrétien&Co. since they have turned so many francos away from federalism. Chrétien&Co were a true gift to the separatism movement. I certainly was not before.

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  4. Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:39 am
    What has Marx to do with any of this? And since I havn't paid much attention to that media, please explain to a patriotic Albertan why you would turn into a separtist?

  5. Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:24 am
    Well now that you ask, your franco/anglo media comments made as much sense as mine on Karl Marx.

    Because special interest groups have always hijacked all the federalist parties reps in Quebec. Many clean people in Quebec came into federalism and they all became corrupted. Some of this corruption also goes on in the sovereignty movement but at a much lesser level: People are much closer breathing on their neck to keep them honest. Ottawa is a very corrupted and sick city. Reminds me very much of Washington, DC. Quebec City is not a corrupted and sick city.

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  6. Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:51 am
    Hm, I think I see a bit of your reasoning, but not all of it. Even if we agree that some parties are corrupt, why chose a "cleaner" separatist party over a cleaner non-separatist party? Clean politics cannot be the whole story, otherwise every other province should be equally pushing for separatism. I find it hard to believe that they are the only relatively clean party.

    Further, I don't think you understand which part I objected to. It was the very last sentence. The article was about objective media vs established media. Yet in the last sentence, it equated free vs corrupt to french vs anglo. As an anglophone who enjoys many free sources of english news online, i find that comment offensive. The author took a free media vs corrupt media debate, and twisted it into an anglo vs french comment without any logic whatsoever.

    The article was excellent, and then the very last sentence destroyed any credibility that was there, and turned it into a mean anti-english smear. I think a blog like Vive deserves a bit more class than the willful spreading of hate against anglos.

  7. Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:15 pm
    Clean federalist parties are much easier to hijack for the reasons that I have described.

    In regards to my last line, you need to understand the assimilation rates of Francophones Hors Quebec in order to understand why they need to reassert themselves in French(the same way BTW Quebec did it 30 years ago). The last line was never intended whatsoever as a spread of hate; could your comment have been?

    In fact my article stated that the FHQs official ***franco*** medias were as corrupted as the soviet regime PRAVDA one were. This corruption was in fact one of the key reason FHQs readily assimilated (similar to People living under the Soviet regime and emigrating o the West). It never suggested anything whatsoever on the anglo media side where you benefit from media competition; FHQs have to contend with a media monopoly (on the franco side). And we all know what monopoly do.

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  8. Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:43 am
    If that is so, why mention anglos at all?

    Your article was doing so well without being divisive. If not to illustrate the corruption of anglos, I don't understand the purpose of that last sentence. Please explain it. Why make a comment of anglo versus franco like that? Your anglo hating prejudice shows.

  9. Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:44 am
    "Une nouvelle forêt ne voit-elle pas le jour même si personne n'est là pour la voir prendre forme à partir de ses arbres? A chacun donc son tit'arbre... Et qu'il soit franco plutôt qu'anglo.
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    Allright let's try explaining. First of all my article has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with corruption of anglos. Nothing. Zilt. I thought I had made that clear earlier on.

    This article is targeted toward an FHQ and perhaps should not have been published here, judging from your comment. That tells a lot about inclusion...

    An FHQ is supposed to express himself in French. When he/she expresses himself in English, he is no longer an FHQ but he is assimilated. It is not "anglo hating" to suggest that one expresses into its own language. I really do not expect you to express yourself in French and will not suggest that you hate French if you don't. What would I be doing here BTW expressing myself most of the time in English if I really "hated" English? Thanks for reading this short essay anyway, but could it be *your* franco hating prejudice showing?


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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  10. Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:04 pm
    So if I speak french, I`m assimilated by the french? We`re all Canadians here. Speak either of the official languages. Let`s quit buying into the divide and conquer stuff and just get along. We`ll be better off for it!

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    Dave Ruston



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