Canadian Killed In Afghanistan

Why are we in Afghanistan again? Why are our soldiers dying? Oh yeah, to save us from terrorism, although we let terrorists immigrate here, and to rebuild a country that never deserved to be attacked in the first place.

No war for Israel!!!

We should leave Afghanistan, there is no reason for us to be there... We should be protecting our sovereignty with our army, not participating in a foolish unjustified war.

The only parties committing troops to BUSH-WACKO'S Oil/Drug/Corporate/Prison/Military/Industrial/
Pharmaceutical/Neo-Fascist/Puritanical/Hypocritical/Non-Transparent/Greedy/Manipulative/Murderous/Deceptive/Evasive/Polarizing/Destructive///UNJUST WAR...

...are the Harper Neo-Con Wackos and the waffling,
deceptive right-leaning corporate Martin Liberals.

Send them BOTH a STRONG message.Vote NDP, Green, CAP
or independant.

UNJUST war.

Unjust war.

Unjust war.


It's not the Canadian way.

Anon,

Even if anyone agreed with you here this is just plain spamming. Can I join in as an angry adult or do I have to be an angry juvenile to participate on this thread.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

It's quite revealing how the Americans always work to save the lives of Canadians when it's never reciprocated...the wounded Canadians were sent to AMERICAN field hospitals, and then transfered to AMERICAN hopsitals in Germany for the BEST in medical care and treatment to ensure that they get ONLY THE BEST...the good guys continue to care for and protect the hateful Canadians as always (eh)....even in the face of all their anti-American hate spasms...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/01/15/afghan-deaths060115.html">http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/01/15/afghan-deaths060115.html</a><br />
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A quote or two (eh)...<br />
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* "Three injured Canadian soldiers are being flown to Germany for treatment after a suicide car bomber struck a military convoy in Afghanistan, killing Canadian diplomat Glyn Berry. <br />
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"They're all in fine care at this point," Lt.-Col. Steve Borland, deputy commander of the Kandahar force, told CBC News. "They have just recently departed for Germany – Landstuhl, Germany – to receive further medical treatment." <br />
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Landstuhl is home to the biggest American hospital, a military facility, outside the United States. "<br />
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<a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060116.wafghan0116/BNStory/Front">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060116.wafghan0116/BNStory/Front</a><br />
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And a few quotes (eh)...<br />
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* "Monday, January 16, 2006 Posted at 5:42 AM EST<br />
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Canadian Press<br />
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Ottawa — Two Canadian soldiers wounded by a suicide attack that killed a Canadian diplomat in Afghanistan remained in critical condition Monday as they were transported to Germany for further treatment.<br />
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Lieutenant-Colonel Steve Borland, the deputy commander and chief of staff for the Canadian Provincial Reconstruction Team in Kandahar, said Private William Edward Salikin and Corporal Jeffrey Bailey were in critical condition and in “medically induced unconsciousness,” while Master Corporal Paul Franklin, who lost a leg in the blast, was in serious but stable condition.<br />
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Lt.-Col. Borland said from Kandahar that the soldiers will be taken to a U.S. military hospital in Germany by a fully equipped medical aircraft.<br />
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“There's quite a significant medical facility there, with some of the best medical people we can find, so it's quite a remarkable place and our soldiers will be well taken care of there,” he said in a telephone interview with The Canadian Press. "<br />
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<a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060116/afghanistan_update_060116/20060116?hub=TopStories">http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060116/afghanistan_update_060116/20060116?hub=TopStories</a><br />
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And again a few quotes...<br />
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* "Wounded soldiers to be transported to Germany<br />
Updated Mon. Jan. 16 2006 8:00 AM ET<br />
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CTV.ca News Staff<br />
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Three Canadian soldiers who were wounded by a suicide bombing in Afghanistan that killed a senior Foreign Affairs diplomat are being transported to an American military hospital in Germany.<br />
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"There's quite a significant medical facility there, with some of the best medical people we can find, so it's quite a remarkable place and our soldiers will be well taken care of there," Lt.-Col. Steve Borland, the deputy commander and chief of staff for the Canadian provincial reconstruction team in Kandahar told The Canadian Press.<br />
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Pte. William Edward Salikin and Cpl. Jeffrey Bailey remain in critical condition while Master Cpl. Paul Franklin, who lost a leg in the blast, is in serious but stable condition, Borland said.<br />
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Speaking at his palace in Kabul ahead of a foreign donors' conference in London later this month, President Hamid Karzai said his nation will need help for a long time.<br />
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"We are in a joint struggle against terrorism, for us and for the international community," he told reporters. <br />
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"If you don't defend yourself here, you will have to defend yourself back home, in European capitals and Americans' capitals."<br />
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"We take losses, Afghans die, the international community gives life for a common cause, for the safety of the world," he said.<br />
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In other developments, a bomb hit a convoy of Afghan army trucks Monday, killing four people and wounding 16 others."<br />
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America, and Americans once again helping to care for the poor, disadvantaged Canadians...those who hate them with every fiber of their being as they finally have decided to leave the safety of Kabul to join the other nations in the world in more hostile/unstable areas of Afghanistan who are willing to help America, Britain, France, Germany, New Zealand, Poland, Australia, etcetera to protect the people of Afghanistan from Canada's own Al queada terrorist friends/allies (that's just SO wierd..and two-faced as well) as they go aboot rebuilding their country (eh)...<br />
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Curiuosly nobody seems too upset aboot what happened to the Afghan people/troops....self centered Can-uh-DUH as always )eh)...go read aboot the OTHER people dying in Afghanistan at the hands of your terrorist friends (eh)...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/060116/w011614.html">http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/060116/w011614.html</a><br />
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Didn't hear Martini say anything aboot these folks (eh)...while he eulogized his leftist liberal party member in public...<br />
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and I quote...<br />
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"PM offers condolences <br />
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Prime Minister Paul Martin issued a statement expressing his concern and condolences "on behalf of all Canadians." <br />
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"Mr. Berry had a long and distinguished career of service to Canadians at home and abroad," Martin said in a statement. <br />
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The PM's statement went on to wish "the three Canadian soldiers who were injured, a speedy and complete recovery." <br />
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Nice folks those leftist radical liberals (eh)...<br />
I'm sure this one will be hidded from view along with anything else the radical left doesn't want known...par for the course at vivelewehateeveryonenotjustlikeus.ca (eh)...<br />
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yes, anonymous, your posts are irritating...why not just post your reply once?
As for the content, it would be nice if you could stick to the topic, which is Afghanistan, not Iraq.
Also, FYI, none of the parties has a proposal to pull Canadian troops out of Afghanistan, although the Greens have a quixotic plank of demanding that the US remove its soldiers (the Greens really puzzle me...I wonder if they will next demand that the US balance its budget).
Anyway, we have a much better debate going on in the Forum section (under Military & Security). I will just repost my initial post to it below:



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We should all pause for a moment to mourn the loss of life in Afghanistan; may it be the last we must face in this pointless, indefinite occupation. We are told that we must accept these deaths and other casualties as 'necessary' to 'preserve democracy', and other neoconservative blather. We are also told that Canada will more than triple the number of our soldiers sent to be targets of anti-US sentiment in the most dangerous areas of the country. Why is Canada putting its soldiers in harm's way in Afghanistan in the first place? We have no business there, and it makes us all less safe here at home, as we become more identified with Bush's War on Islam; just take a look at today’s headlines of US forces (read CIA) in Afghanistan bombing villages across the border in Pakistan and killing 22 peasants because they thought an Al-Qaeda member 'might have been invited to dinner' somewhere in the village. Just imagine what goes on inside Afghanistan! And we are associating ourselves with this. Why? Are we really just another American poodle, like the UK?
The occupation of Afghanistan is unjustified, even if you believe that it was justified in 2001. Afghanis had nothing to do with 9/11 anyway (all hijackers were Saudi or Egyptian). Some may have trained there, as well as in Germany and elsewhere. Why don't we occupy Germany then? If the hijackers had been training in Alberta, would that justify an indefinite U.S. occupation of the oil fields? I bet Bush & Co would argue it would! (and Paul and Stephen would be bending over to let them do so).
Some Canadians feel that Afghanistan is somehow different from Iraq, because they don't have oil (they do have enormous amounts of natural gas, however), and because we hear less about it (because no-one seems to care much about Afghanistan, when Iraq is so much more fun to watch come apart at the seams). But it's another face of the same beast of US bullying and imperialism.
So why are we there? My best guess is the Liberals are putting Canadian soldiers there because they are scared of the US and also that they or their supporters are getting kickbacks from US energy firms like Unocal, who are building gas pipelines across Afghanistan (don't forget how Canada got shut out of the contracts for Iraq...we wouldn't want that to happen again now, would we?). And the Tories will continue this, since they are just as corrupt. Maybe it's time for the NDP to make some noise on this...or do they have their snouts in the trough as well?
As for the Mean-Nasty-Ugly-Taliban / Humanitarian-War rationale, why do you think the Taliban took power to begin with? People were sick of warlords controlling the country and killing anyone who disagreed, so they supported the Taliban; they were assholes, but at least they didn't massacre people, they just banned everything fun and blew up some stone Buddhas. At least the Taliban established law & order and eliminated the drug trade. Now, opium production in Afghanistan is back to pre-Taliban levels. This has an effect on your daily life in Vancouver, Toronto, or wherever you live, in the form of a flood of cheap heroin. Yes, the Taliban were arch-conservatives and forced women to wear Burqas. In the Netherlands, they are forcing women to remove their Burqas. Is anyone proposing an invasion of Amsterdam? No, and rightly not. War and occupation is not the answer. Why cannot Canadians realize this? What we are doing in Afghanistan is not peacemaking or peacekeeping. It is armed occupation, pure and simple. We need to get ourselves out of there and focus on true unarmed humanitarian assistance.


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Nice job of "filtering" their vivelewehateeveryonenotjustlikeus.ca!!! Kudos to you and your "progression" (eh)...afraid of becoming TRULY ENLIGHTENED or what? LOL!!!

"So why are we there?"

lol...knowing Canadians it's propbably because of a chance to *save the heroin poppies* (eh)...like, uhhh...duuuude....cough, cough...like...farm oot, man...let's score some heroin for our VanHoover clinics *eh*...

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" Anonymous on Monday, January 16 2006 @ 08:55 AM MST "

Great post friend!!! Nothing like a thank you from the *greatful ones* is there?

Nope. nothing like a thank you from our progressive enlightened Canadian "friends" (eh)...especially from those tolerant, peaceful, and polite ones...maybe they're oot and aboot building beaver dams or igloos, and are just too busy (eh)...

The troops are in Afghanistan to protect the pipeline from the Caspian basin to the Indian ocean. The rest of Afghanistan gets to wallow in the mire of lawlessness, warlords and terror. Same with Iraq- the pipelines are getting more protection than the people!

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Dave Ruston

>>>The troops are in Afghanistan to protect the pipeline from the Caspian basin to the Indian ocean.<<<

There is no such pipeline in Afghanistan.

>>>Same with Iraq- the pipelines are getting more protection than the people!<<<

Is that what you saw there or did you get that with your pipeline info on Common Dreams?