Jury Says Tax Protest Not Tax Evasion

Posted on Wednesday, June 28 at 10:04 by Diogenes
Klundert argued that disclosing his earnings to the government would be like "sitting down with thieves" and telling them where his valuables were. Klundert said his actions did not constitute tax evasion, but were instead an honest protest. http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/27/taxes27062006.html Diogenes writes: This is an event that deserves to be brought to the fore and has been assigned scant ink! To my mind it is the decision of a jury that is telling. So come on Vive le Canada participants, let's hear your views! [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on June 29, 2006]

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  1. Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:05 pm
    AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

    We should all refuse to pay for a illegal wars, and other criminal activities perpetrated by a corrupt and dysfunctional system of government.

    I don't mind paying local taxes - we need clean water, good roads, reliable electricity, good schools, we need to pay for some government workers and pay them well (but certainly not all of them), however when my money is forcebly being stolen from me, and when it goes to fund criminal activities, or when it gets shipped off to other countries to our detriment, or when it pays to have me enslaved and spied on by the government, I get more than a little pissed off.

    I'll pass this story on. Thanks for posting it!

  2. Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:36 pm
    Yes! thanks to the Mods for presenting this submission
    I was speaking to one of my sovereign citizen friends this am and he agreed this story will only get legs if we at the grass routes level insist on it. as It is the story is somewhat buried
    Jury trials give us the control the 'autorities' wrested away from us


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    The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

  3. Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:15 pm
    In this case they at least won't be able to present the jury as being insane. Obviously there's plenty of discontent out there about being robbed blind through a corrupt taxation system. Something will have to break sooner or later, it's just a matter of time.

    The article was VERY short on details - do you have any other sources to present?

  4. Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:28 pm
    A little more detail here. ;)<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/bulletin/2005/05-02-25-bul.wpd/05-02-25-bul.wpd.html">http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/bulletin/2005/05-02-25-bul.wpd/05-02-25-bul.wpd.html</a><br />
    <br />
    You have to search the document for "Jack Klundert".<p>---<br>"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden<br />

  5. Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:34 pm
    The CBC is not reporting this story very clearly. I suspect the intent is not to give the public the truth. None of the other big media in Canada has reported this story as far as I have seen. What middle class jury, who pays the whopping share of taxes, would allow a guy who made 1.5 million to walk away from paying his taxes? I suspect it would be the opposite effect. Clearly the technical merits of why the jury "had" to come to this conclusion has been omitted from the story. I don't believe for a second it was because the jury "apparently agreed there was no criminal intent." This jury had to make a legal decision on why Jack Klundert should be acquitted. Secondly the article reads "Klundert, who says he doesn't believe the federal government has the constitutional right to collect income tax, was found not guilty of tax evasion." Note that this line is an actual quote from Kundert. The story says what he believes and not the actual legal argument. This story has been severely edited and demands should be made to "Canada's Public Broadcaster" to provide clear information on a news story that has incredible legal ramifications on the Canadian tax system. Here is my take on the story; I believe that Klundert has claimed he is a "natural person" and that a "natural person" is not required to pay income tax. This is NOT the Detax crowd but a different group and according to many involved the Government of Canada has not had any success in defeating their claims. I'm assuming this may be the argument because I understand that they are trained and educated on the Canadian tax system and one of their actions is to file a tax return but claim zero income. Check out this website because I wonder if this might have something to do with this group: Paradigm Education Group http://www.naturalperson.com/ I'm looking forward to seeing something more detailed about this story.

  6. Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:35 pm
    The government will move swiftly to amend the laws in light of this.

    I'm amazed he won, what did he do, donate the 350,000 he owed to the Liberal party?

    I don't have much sympathy for optomitrists who make 1.5 mil, refuse to pay any tax on it, and set up offshore accounts to hide the money.

    Now, if single moms who make 25k a year started winning cases like this, THEN I'd be cheering!

  7. Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:40 pm
    I heard this story reported on CBC radio and tried to see if there was more on google Canada news, there was not and what you see possted in the feature story was found as the last line in CBC's Web site
    I hae spoken with Doug Christie the lawer who fought the case and he will be reporting it on a newsletter one may subscribe to
    I suspect Vives spam filter will prevent my offering the email addy for the subscrition.
    if not here it is

    kzubko@shaw.ca <kzubko@shaw.ca>

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    The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

  8. Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:31 pm
    I agree with the previous comments that there's something significant to this story that's not being reported. I agree as well that the jury did not let this man off the hook without a valid legal reason, therefore it is likely they agreed that the tax system is being applied fraudulently in some way. We need more details on this important story, which should be making headlines.

  9. by shagya
    Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:16 am
    It sounds good as far as it goes. At least somebody was able to get around the feds.

  10. by RPW
    Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:13 am
    I've long held the view that taxes should either be:
    1] voluntary, so that the strength of a democracy may be measured in the the confidence of the populace that the government is doing the right thing with tax money;

    2} compulsory, but payable in amounts stipulated by the tax payer as to which department(s) (s)he supports;

    3] compulsory, but paid first and foremost to the municipality, which in turn pays a percentage to the province, which in turn pays a percentage to the feds;

    4] flatrate across the board on gross income, no deductions, no exceptions, and payble as in 2] or 3].

    In a democracy, it is the people who should wield the power, for better or for worse.......

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    RickW

    "The purpose of economic competition is to eliminate competition"...." - John Kenneth Galbraith

  11. by Frank_
    Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:49 am
    Yeah, I was cheering for a second until I realized the guy made something like 300,000/year.

    Heh, 100 years ago, Congress and Senate in US and Canada were wondering if taxing income was legal.

    Now we all goose step in line when the spring comes, go figure.

  12. Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:58 am
    <p>New article on this case is posted in the Windsor Star. However, its a little more detailed but still lacks the technical merits of the case. <p>Sonja Puzic and Dave Battagello, Windsor Star Published: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 <p><a href="http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=05e029b6-8eb0-4ad2-af33-db23d90a686c&k=53476">Jury says refusal to pay tax not crime</a>

  13. Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:30 am
    because of the actions of this guy maybe single moms at the poverty level of 25 grand a year WILL be able to use the presedent(sic) developed by this guy

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    The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

  14. by RPW
    Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:24 pm
    Quote from Star article: <blockquote>Klundert opened bank accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands, where he funnelled cash from his business, according to court evidence</blockquote>Shucks! Now it's <b>easy to see</b> why he couldn't be called guilty. It would set a precedent that would see most of the major contributors to both Libs and Cons go to jail as well............<p>---<br>RickW<br />
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    "The purpose of economic competition is to eliminate competition"...." - John Kenneth Galbraith



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