Painful Deceptions

Firemen at ground Zero WTC have said that three black boxes were recovered. You can read more about it here at the <a href="http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001139.html#more">Campaign Extra</a> site. <li>You can check it out at the <a href="http://summeroftruth.org/groundzero.html">Summer of Truth</a> site where a, (pulitzer prize winners), book is offered.

I don't need a black box to tell me that the Bush cartel planned and executed the 9-11 attack. Common sense does. I didn't have time to read them all, but I was greatly encouraged by the large number of American posters who feel the same and have NOT been hoodwinked by all the patriotic blather coming forth from Bushkins.

re: Painful Deceptions

It is painful to see so many people believe in superstitions and fantasies provided by conspiracy theorists.

People who believe in this stuff are afraid and are looking for explanations as to why bad things happen, they need to think there is some great mastermind who has ultimate control, because if they didn't, they would have to accept the reality that there are truly evil people who want to hurt them just because they exist.

In this case, that would be Islamic extremists who want to kill anyone they consider 'infidels' because these extremists only believe in an Islamic 'peace'.

Unfortunately, 'peace' in Islamic terms requires that there not be any 'infidels' - so peaceful co-existence is not possible with the fanatical elements.

Hey mussy 10:19
you can read I assume?
see how this fits you corporate controlled Fascist America.
http://www.freedomfiles.org/articles/Re ... ascism.pdf

I read with some interest the yammerings posted on MSN's Slate and real thinking is a rare occurence there.


Conspiracy Theory Theory

They leave little evidence





“A conspiracy is rarely, if ever, proved by positive testimony. When a crime of high magnitude is about to be perpetrated by a combination of individuals, they do not act openly, but covertly and secretly. The purpose formed is known only to those who enter into it. Unless one of the original conspirators betray his companions and give evidence against them, their guilt can be proved only by circumstantial evidence...”

[Special Judge Advocate John A. Bingham, quoted in The Trial Of The Conspirators, Washington, 1865]

many of your country men never question ther actions of the action of the state , you appear to be one who follows that lead.

Your posts are dismissive at best and
lost in a propagadic haze at worst.

<blockquote>People who believe in this stuff are afraid and are looking for explanations as to why bad things happen, they need to think there is some great mastermind who has ultimate control, because if they didn't, they would have to accept the reality that there are truly evil people who want to hurt them just because they exist.</blockquote> <p>People question the actions of Bush and his admin to go to war with a country that had no ties to 911. People question the actions of Bush and his admin who put about 90% of their focus on Iraq and not Afghanistan where the real evil doers were. People question the Bush admin and why they went to war with Iraq who had no ties to 911, while they let the Saudi's go free even though its a fact that many of the terrorist were Saudi's. <p>Cause they question all of this and more, they are conspiracy theroist? <p>The fact you won't question any of the actions of Bush and his admin. What does that say about you? You think all of Bush and his admin actions were some godly plan or something and everything the Islam people did were evil. Do you honestly think that all of the people their fighting today in Iraq are people who have always hated the U.S? No the U.S did the job of creating more enemies where they once were not even there. <p>U.S government is just as much evil as some of the terroist in the Islamic world. <p>Kevin

Propaganda in a Democratic Society
by Aldous Huxley

http://www.deoxy.org/huxley1.htm

In regard to propaganda the early advocates of universal literacy and a free press envisaged only two possibilities: the propaganda might be true, or it might be false. They did not forsee what in fact has happened, above all in our Western capitalist democracies - the development of a vast mass communications industry, concerned in the main neither with the true nor the false, but with the unreal, the more or less totally irrelevant. In a word, they failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions.

So what is your point? Are you saying the video, which only uses articles, photos and audio/video segments taken from the mass media(CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, newspapers and radio broadcasts, etc) is a propaganda exercise? If you know how to say what you mean, say it! It might also be a good idea to watch the video so that you know what you are criticizing, anon.

>even though its a fact that many of the terrorist were Saudi's <p>To be precise, the official consipracy theory is that most of them were Saudi...if you believe the FBI anaged to come up with 19 names and photos inside of 24 hrs and yet the whole op was a big surprise...But it's also an <em>actual</em> fact that eight of the 19 fall guys were still alive on 9/12, and were offered quiet apologies...yet the list of names and photos has never been changed. (The names also never appeared on any published manifests; the discrepancy between the manifests and the reported numbers didn't total 19; and the only airport video presented has been of (someone who looks like) Atta at Portland, not Logan.) <p>What people are looking for - back to aNON - is a theory that fits the facts. The conspiracy theory offered by the Whitehouse is a very poor fit to the facts, and is accompanied by so much obvious bluster, coverup (eg an investigation would divert resources from the War on Terra), and redirection that even <a href='//amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966707109/'>dumbed-down Americans</a> are smelling a rat.

One thing that was surprising is the fact the buildings came straight down, just like a demolition.

Curiouser and curiouser.


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