Adding Insult To Injury? Wounded Soldiers Have Pay Cut

Posted on Thursday, October 05 at 12:00 by rearguard
Canadian Forces personnel serving overseas are given extra pay, on top of their normal salaries, to account for the hardship and risk. Those who are currently serving their second tour of duty in Kandahar, for instance, receive $2,111 a month, tax-free, above their regular pay. In addition, those on high-risk missions are given an income-tax exemption of up to $6,647 a month. That ends if a soldier's wounds are so severe that he or she must be removed from the theatre of war. Rest of story here http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061005.wxdanger05/BNStory/National/home [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on October 6, 2006]

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  1. Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:40 am
    Getting your arms and leggs ripped apart for the good of a neocon/globalist agenda is NOT worth a measly $2,111 a month in pay - tax free or not!

    I'm always amazed that people sign up. I guess thay have no idea at all what they really are signing up for, and they truely think that they will be defending their home land.

    It's so sad to see young people thowing away their lives while chasing a lie.

  2. Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:00 am
    You dont have a clue, what it is to serve. Its a honour to know that you are doing something, cowards like you cannot do.
    That you are willing to stand for the weak. To stand for a Country that allows you freedom to say what you wish.
    Remember
    " it was not a poet that gave you freedom, It is not a writer that gave you freedom, It was a soldier. A soldier that many here knock and dislike"
    But to go back to the post. They just don't get 2100$ for beeing wounded. They get a lot more. Up to 6000$/m.
    I know, I receive 175$/m tax free for mine from there.

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    27 yrs in the military, 10 tours now and I hope another in Feb

  3. by Patm
    Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:12 am
    Armyguy - read the article and the post. Wounded soldiers LOSE the pay and the tax exemption.

    As for calling people cowards because they didn't join the military well, Harper never served, did he? How About Martin? How about pretty well every MP and Senator? How about your wife? Your child? You've just called every person that didn't wear the uniform a coward.

    A coward is someone who, from a position of strength, preys upon those they can defeat. That is the position of Canada in Haiti and Afghanistan. Our armed forces are fighting a war for the cowards in Ottawa and Washington.

    I wore the uniform. My parents both wore the uniform. My father died wearing the uniform. I am dead set against Canada's participation in the empire wars of the United States. But since I wore the Uniform, I cannot be a coward it seems.

    Armyguy - wearing fancy clothes does not change the nature of the wearer.

    Romeo Dalaire was a hero when he wore a Uniform. He became even more of a hero once he took the uniform off and spoke out.

    Rick Hillier is a coward in my eyes. A racist war monger who just loves the idea of killing "ragheads" for his oil and armaments industry masters.

  4. Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:15 am
    Me a coward? By posting in here the views that I have, even when using a pseudonym, I'm serving myself up for retaliation.

    I'm willing to defend Canada, but you? What in the hell have you been doing for Canada as it gets gobbled up and spit out by fascist neocons???? All that you are doing is shooting at people in an impoverished country many km's away from home so that the fascists can build an oil & gas pipeline.

    We need a strong military presence right here at home defending Canada more than ever - you are doing exactly of opposite of what's needed.

  5. Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:12 am
    "All that you are doing is shooting at people in an impoverished country many km's away from home so that the fascists can build an oil & gas pipeline."<br />
    <br />
    Not to mention the fact that military presence has somehow served to restore the Afghan Opium Trade<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060921&articleId=3294">http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060921&articleId=3294</a><br />
    <br />
    Here is a quote from this story<br />
    <br />
    "Implemented in 2000-2001, the Taliban's drug eradication program led to a 94 percent decline in opium cultivation. In 2001, according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels."<br />

  6. Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:26 am
    No, armyguy, it is you that hasn&#8217;t a clue and is the coward. Those you call cowards from your twisted brainwashed perspective have more bravery than you or your family put together.

    You are one of the shit-eaters I refer to.

    &#8220;The freedom to say what you wish&#8221; will be lost before your finish your time, and you will have helped it along.
    It is people like you who must have a leader because you can&#8217;t make it out here on civie-street.
    All those &#8220;tours&#8221; and years of &#8220;service&#8221; you brag about have only institutionalised you.
    You&#8217;re a pawn and a pitiful excuse for a man.

    To the rest of the subscribers here.
    armyguy can NOT reason! only argue!



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    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  7. by Deacon
    Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:18 am
    Armyguy, I have just about had enough of your toy-soldier BS.

    Most of the guys I knew who did their time in the forces were musicians, poets, tradesmen, teachers, and not just soldiers.

    As for being a coward, the only reason I didn't get in was because of medical reasons, otherwise by now you'd be looking me in the eye and calling me "Sir" every time you spoke to me.

    You puke out government doctrine with all the certainty that members of the Waffen SS had when they were blindly serving the devil incarnate.

    Then again, I guess for a thug like you, thinking is hard work.

    And no, I will NEVER consider you to be a soldier.

    You're too damn ignorant.



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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  8. Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:26 am
    From the article:
    "Canadian Forces personnel serving overseas are given extra pay, on top of their normal salaries, to account for the hardship and risk. Those who are currently serving their second tour of duty in Kandahar, for instance, receive $2,111 a month, tax-free, above their regular pay. In addition, those on high-risk missions are given an income-tax exemption of up to $6,647 a month."

    Doesn't that confirm that our military is being used as a bunch of mercenaries? That's not volunteering for anything as far as I'm concerned.

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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  9. Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:58 pm
    This story fits very well with another story some time ago, where it was claimed that wounded US soldiers were charged for certain services in privatized military hospitals and had their pay cut.

    What amuses me about the generals is that way back they used to wear the fanciest and stupidest uniforms, full of gold and tingles, to show their rank. Now they wear the fanciest,
    stupidest camouflage uniforms thousands of miles behind the lines and are yanked away in helicopters at the sound of the first shot.

    All my family have been soldiers and fought in wars, every generation, for 1000 years. One of my ancestors was given 3 villages by the Empress Maria Theresia during the Austro-Prussian wars, when Hungarian cavalry occupied the German Kaiser's palace in Potsdam and their commander by the name of Hadik, sat on the Kaiser's throne. Another of my great-great grandfathers was a Polish count by the name of Javorsky, who had to flee Poland after an unsuccessful uprising against the Russians and settled in Eger, Hungary. One of my great grandfathers fought against the Austrians, at 17, in the war of 1848-49.

    My father and one of my uncles fought it WW1. Another of my ancestors was a Greek admiral by the name of Despot, and my family's original name was derived from this and became Deszpoth.

    I grew up with the stories of heroic deeds, medals, swords and guns and was the hottest warmonger punk, as a teen. Military training from the age of 12, platoon commander in the cadets at 16, still have all the papers, joined up at 17, officer candidate, regimental champion battalion staff master marksman, detailed to a heavy machinegun squad to protect the crew, hit by at least 20 bullets without a scratch, still have the souveniers, wounded by a small calibre mortar shell when on a voluntary assault patrol, in a voluntary rearguard battalion, etc. etc.

    The 14 months in a primitive, postwar MASH hospital. 3 months as a patient and 11 as a volunteer orderly, gave me time to think without the influence of daily propaganda, and and opened my eyes of the total corruption of and in the military and of anybody who sends people into wars.

    Having seen what the military is all about, and having studied military history for decades, I look at any military as the most corrupt organization, together with multinational corporations and religions, surviving on secrecy, lies, misinformation, propaganda, and tons of BS.
    This is why all armies now carry "imbedded", pussycat, media reps who write what they're told and not what they see.

    The fact that the politicians and generals claim that they're bringing democracy to Afghanistan with 20,000 troops is the biggest and stupidest lie. They know it very well that to occupy a country like Afgh. they'd need 500,000 infantry, because motorized troops are a criminal waste of lives and effort. They float around like a fart in a pair of pants, making noise and stink, but no benefit.

    What Canadian troops are doing there is to mentally condition them and the public and to give them training and combat experience when we become part of the US empire.

    If Hillier is such a great national hero, what is he doing at secret conferences, like the one at Banff,
    discussing the sale of Canada and the incorporation of Canada's armed forces into a continental unit, planned and designed to enforce the rule and profit taking of the multinational corporate mafia all over the world ?

    I question the loyalty and patriotism of anybody, especially of officers of high rank, who are involved in discussions and negotiations for the sale of the country they've sworn to defend.

    There's a name for such, but then, as I wrote many times before, professional soldiers have always been the biggest turncoats in history, going back thousands of years.

    Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  10. Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:34 pm
    Bravo!
    A refreashingly original view

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    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  11. Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:41 pm
    Hey dickhead
    I was calling all of the ones that dont support us cowards. Not Like I do serve. Yes they loose the FOA, and tax exempt. But do get more. I receive 175$ for my injury a month. And no I dont aggree they should loose the money.

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    27 yrs in the military, 10 tours now and I hope another in Feb

  12. Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:04 pm
    Remember
    " it was not a poet that gave you freedom, It is not a writer that gave you freedom, It was a soldier. A soldier that many here knock and dislike"

    You miss the biggest point and perhaps on purpose. Canadians did not use a military to gain the freedoms they have.
    Canadians gave the freedom to the military. Canadians pay the tax dollars to have the military. During my term everyone was against the military. Joe Public decided the forces were unneeded and the forces dwindled to the point of being forgotten. Canadians can turn the tide on the "military's freedom". Those "cowards" pay your salary and it's they you work for. *Canada is NOT be threatened and if were to be, it would be ludicrous to be sending our troops away. Those "cowards" are not afraid to say where their troops are to be deployed. The real cowards are those who vision in their own mind, the justification for their existance.
    Not every country in NATO or the UN suports the American excuses for their military and apparantly less Americans themselves agree with those excuses. Those "cowards" can easly put an end to it and with or without Bush.
    Will you be calling Americans "cowards" as well, should they decide to withdraw their troops?

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  13. Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:23 pm
    Doesn't that confirm that our military is being used as a bunch of mercenaries? That's not volunteering for anything as far as I'm concerned<<

    Very good point. Why are the "volunteers" really volunteering? None have ever been in Afghanistan before and certainly can't be familier with the people there. When there, they aren't going to be treating the Afghanistani as friends or good neighbours. They are not there to "help" the Afghanistani. They are not there to be part of these peoples culture.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.



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