Gilles Duceppe And Bloc Québécois Elites Support U.S. Takeover Of Québec

Awhile back I posted a story regarding Duceppe's position; so no surprise here <br />
for me<br />
<a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php</a>?<br />
story=20060827133647424&query=duceppe<br />
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You have to copy and paste the link, cause it breaks when posted here.<p>---<br>"aaaah and the whisper of thousands of tiny voices became a mighty deafening roar and they called it 'freedom'!"' Canadians Acting Humanely at home & everywhere

Please do not extrapolate this behavior to the entire sovereignist movement. Many Québécois sovereignists are very concerned about this "selling your soul to the evil" deal. Duceppe has certainly not shown the leadership on the matter of continental integration that he should have. Many sovereignist leaders have not either. Their desparation to reach their goal does not go unnoticed amongst the grassroot either. It ultimately severely hurts the Québécois sovereignist movement IMO. There has been many discussions on this matter on Politiquebec.com BTW. Michou's insights would be most useful on Vive.

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"We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

I agree re: Michou but, why should she bother?

I have no knowledge of whether anything in this article is accurate however, even if all is what's the difference between the the federal governements of this 'nation' throughout the past fifty or so years of it's life?


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"When we are in the middle of the paradigm, it is hard to imagine any other paradigm" (Adam Smith).

Yes, it gets more and more obvious that the 'sovereignists' or 'separatists' or 'sellouts' are indeed taking Quebeckers for a ride! Watch for the PQ and ADQ to form a new centre coalition. Most Quebeckers i have met feel safer within a united Canada.

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Dave Ruston

After being biten a few times for "crying wolf", even though there actually were wolves to cry about, it would seem sovereigntists have chosen to remain silent on this one, certainly because of other priorities, but also because Canadian sovereignty (over them) has never been much of interest to begin with. <p> No matter how you look at it, I believe most would agree that much of what we today know as "Canadian unity" was actually built up BECAUSE there was a Québec sovereigntist movement spurring it on. It brings to mind the strong memory and fear of Canada "breaking apart" back in the 70's and 90's. That kind of imagery does leave marks. Anyway, the next decade should be enough to tell us if this canadian glu is holding thick or thin. Québécers will be faced with the same choice. Some may believe that many Québécers have already made that choice, some have, but to call them traitors for it … Haven’t I heard that one before. *sigh* . Same old diversion. <p> If you need traitors, look towards you own Canadian sovereigntists to find them. Are they in the field, getting support and collecting votes, outspoken and defending your own best interests ? I sure hope so but I can’t hear anyone crying wolf yet. <p> <p>---<br>« Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron <br />

Glad to hear a confirmation of this odd stance taken by Québécois sovereignists.

One point on your statement: "No matter how you look at it, I believe most would agree that much of what we today know as "Canadian unity" was actually built up BECAUSE there was a Québec sovereigntist movement spurring it on."

George Grant and Mel Hurtig canadian sovereignty discourse pretty much abstracted "Quebec" sovereignty IMO. Most ironic that Quebec sovereignists are doing same on the canadian sovereignty movement. And yet if there is one area where there is common ground, that would be the one. I would argue that Canadian sovereignists are most likely to understand the case for Quebec sovereignty. Canadian sovereignists have most to learn from Quebec sovereignists too! Deux solitudes, n'est-ce pas? La GG les brisera t'elle? And here I stand torn in between...

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"We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

As an afterthought, I would argue that Quebec sovereignists will end up paying the price of not supporting canadian sovereignty when they seek québécois voters support next time around. Democracy does often suprise its stakeholders.

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"We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"