"We have to get the message out to Americans that we take this seriously . . . that their security is better provided for by working with Canada than by hardening or militarizing the border," said Beatty.He told the committee it makes more sense to push security boundaries out and improve intelligence to catch potential problems before they reach North America, whether it's an airline passenger of a suspicious piece of cargo on a ship.
ie, he supports the North American security perimeter idea.
A few more quick links on anti-terrorism law:
CBC: Anti-terrorism act still needed: McLellan
Why we must uphold our human rights, letters in reply to comments re anti-terrorism legislation in the UK
THE VIEWS OF CANADIAN SCHOLARS ON THE IMPACT OF THE ANTI-TERRORISM ACT
Maclean's, 2004: Canada's Anti-terrorism act to be reviewed
Anti-Terrorism Law Targets Visible Minorities (from Tamil Canadian.com)
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Problem : Reaction: Solution.
The Hegelian Dilectic in action.
poor little peons say "london got bombed, that means we too are not safe, we have to do something to prevent this. Big powerful Government, please save us" Government says "Sure we will save you, give up your rights, do what we say and we will protect you"
Notice how the government, SUPPOSEDLY Civil SERVANTS, call themselves "the authorities" now, on a regular basis? They say that "No matter how much we try we won't be able to stop these attacks completely" Then turn around and say harsher legislation and annexation with the local superpower will protect us. Is anyone else sick to death of this? It makes me want to scream.
But where the Americans are always nervous, we Canadians just wrap ourselves up in our complacency. It could happen here, it might not, but it could, and if it does we need to be prepared for it.
We cannot, as a country or a continent, become a shut in. We can't be obsessive compulsive about terrorism. Then again, terrorism does exist, and we should be prepared for that. Its kind of like a housefire: you can't suck all the oxygen out of your house to prevent a fire because you'd suffocate the people who dwell in that house; on the otherhand you cannot make your house completely out of dry wood and grass with a great big papier-mâché fireplace convincing yourself that fires were things that happened to other people, but not to you. Moderation is the key. You make sure your electrical work is all up to code, that you have fire detectors, that you have a plan for escape if your house does catch on fire, and that you know what to do if there is a fire (i.e. call 911).
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"But I want to remind you: that you can lock up a mouse or a man but you can't lock up an idea." - Tommy Douglas
I feel it is important to acknowledge that the root causes of many acts aggression are grievances considered legitimate by some that do not get meaningfully discussed by others and that it is only more dialogue that will win the world-wide war on violence, not weapons.
Comments like the one above are part of the problem.
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Canadabob
Especially in the case of guerrilla style ‘terrorism’
In my, and others opinion, there is a strong case to be made for false flag terrorist action(s) state sponsored to achieve exactly what it did and will continue to do,
Eradicate freedom!
Since the loss of life with the 911 scam hundreds of thousands of live have bee taken in the names of Freedom and democracy.
People who make it their business to think critically have been sounding the alarms, all to no Avail!
First lock down the USA and play on the existing paranoia inherent in their flag waving, flag wearing pseudo-society.
Leonard Cohen pretty much had it hard wired with.
They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within
I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin
Or
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows
Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows
And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows
And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows
Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows
We seem to give too much credence to the ‘into lec to y’all’s” or idiots like the paranoid NY’er, and little, if any to the artists and poets
On March 05,2003 as a member of Poets for Peace I delivered 13,000 Antiwar Poems to Canadian government at the office of Ms. Paddy Torsney (Burlington, Lib.). On that same day the poems were presented to government representatives in 12 countries. The 13,000 poems from around the world were submitted to the Poets-Against-the-War website over a period of just 5 weeks before this event. (That was amazing and that spontanious word-wide effort sends a powerful message in itself - wouldn't you agree?
Ms Torsney presented the poems to the Prime Minsiter of Canada on March 25th and on March 26, 2005 seh made the followng announcement in Canadian Parliament.
Mr. Speaker, all around the world people are united in their desire for peace. This desire was clearly evident on March 5 when my constituency office served as the Canadian presentation site for Poets for Peace. Some 11,000 poets for peace collected 13,000 anti-war poems through the Internet. Poems were submitted by eight Pulitzer prize-winning poets, professors, business people, homemakers and war veterans from around the world and were presented to the government representatives in 12 countries. Yesterday it was my great pleasure to present these poems to the right hon. Prime Minister. I am pleased that concerned citizens from my riding and from across Canada and people around the world are speaking out and letting their government representatives know of their desire for peace. All of us hope for a speedy resolution to the current conflict in the world.
Then on April 03, 2003 Hon. John Manley (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Lib.)stood in Parliament and stated the following position of the Canadian government:
Mr. Speaker, may I begin by saying that I believe it is appropriate for parliamentarians once again to have the opportunity to express themselves on the events that we see unfolding daily in Iraq. Canada is not directly engaged in this conflict. We stood apart because we believe that it is the Security Council of the United Nations that ought to take the responsibility for authorizing the use of force in international conflict. This is consistent with decades of Canadian foreign policy and it is consistent with the charter of the United Nations. It is consistent with past practice, as long ago as the Korean war and as recently as the first gulf war. Our principles have not changed. They are as strong today as they were when our diplomats were working tirelessly toward bringing a new resolution before the United Nations Security Council.
We reaffirm our support and commitment to international institutions upon which world peace and security depend. Canada firmly believes in the essential role the United Nations must play in the aftermath of this conflict as well as in the resolution of any other conflict. Canada remains steadfastly committed to providing humanitarian assistance now and in the future, and to supporting the reconstruction process in Iraq once the conflict is over.
Did the effort of these thouseand of Poets and my effort as their representative on that day influence the Candian Government? Maybe yes - maybe no - but I would like to think perhaps a in the direction of - yes.
I put my poem in the front of that presentation binder. It was 4 inches thick with just the titles and names and countries of the poets. The actual poem copies were put on computer disks.
My poem was titled "Starve War" and it was since published in a book on peace by Lane Community College and distributed to the staff of community colleges nationally in the US.
Starve War
There is as much hunger for peace in this world as there is for bread.
War starves us all.
There is as much love in the home of your enemies as there is in your own.
Love unites us all.
There is more need for understanding in this world than there is for forgiveness.
Reconciliation can save us all.
To satisfy the world's hunger for peace,
feed yourself with good judgment,
feed your government with good advice
and feed all others with tolerance,
goodwill, compassion and respect.
To satisfy the world's hunger for peace,
starve war.
Bob Hicks
Nominee 2002 YMCA Peacemaker of the Year Award - Canada Peace Medal for organizing a joint meeting for Peace Talks between two Toastmasters Clubs.
So yes - we are blessed. Perhaps the world won't miss anyone who doesn't care enough to try, but I, and others, will keep trying for them anyway. We won't give up and I will hope that others who cause violence will give up soon. After all - no doubt their families hunger for peace also.
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Canadabob
"Thank God we have Paul Martin to guide us through this mess. "<br />
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What a got here is a serious case of the fox in the hen-house!<br />
Several Canadians who have attended in the past include Ralph Klein, Preston Manning, Paul Martin and Jean Chretien. Klein's attendance was reported in the May 29, 1995 issue of the Report<br />
<a href="http://www.bilderberg.org/cocktail.htm">http://www.bilderberg.org/cocktail.htm</a><br />
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Most Canadians have never heard of the Bilderberg group, let alone realize the significance of Mr. Harper's attendance at the meeting. For a good background reading, please see<br />
<a href="http://www.nexusmagazine.com/Bilderbergers.html">http://www.nexusmagazine.com/Bilderbergers.html</a><br />
Perhaps the global elite have their bets placed on a sharp right turn in the upcoming federal election.<br />
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<a href="http://65.40.245.240/money/bildebrg.htm">http://65.40.245.240/money/bildebrg.htm</a><br />
We invite you to remember which Canadians attended this Conference if Quebec UDI does in fact occur early next year: Premier Mike Harris of Ontario, recently-returned from his first-ever discussion with Premier Lucien Bouchard of Quebec , just prior to the Conference; Prime Minister Jean Chretien, whose "counsellor, strategist and advisor" for the past thirty years has been Mitchell Sharp, a key member of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission; Paul Martin, Finance Minister, and a product of Paul Desmarais' - also a Trilateral Commission member - Power Corporation; Lloyd Axworthy, Foreign Affairs Minister; Conrad Black, ardent international businessman and Chairman of Hollinger, Inc.,; Frederik Eaton, wealthy scion of the Eaton department store family; Allan Gotlieb, former Ambassador to the U.S.; Anthony Griffin, Honorary Chairman, Guardian Group; Ted Rogers, communications and cable mogul; and Red Wilson, Chairman of Bell Canada Enterprises<br />
It's highly unlikely you would think the same way if your family were riding one of those trains. But those 52 dead people are strangers to you and their human rights are now irrelevant to you because they're dead, so you'll concern yourself with those poor dear terrorists and their 'legitimizing' grievances.
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<a href="http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/HTML/Health-Regulatory-History/Buildeburgers/Bilderberger2.html">http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/HTML/Health-Regulatory-History/Buildeburgers/Bilderberger2.html</a><br />
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How the elites are all connected<br />
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A little info on who's who and what may be in the works. Don Monteith <br />
"Their aim is nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. The system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences." ~ Professor Carroll Quigley <br />
The Rockefeller links of Canadian politicians... It may re-pay the reader to spend a few minutes tracing the connections of Paul Desmarais and Power Corp. to the leading politicians, etc. of Canada: <br />
. JOHN RAE: leading strategist for Prime Minister Chretien's election campaign. Was Executive Vice- President of Power Corp. and Paul Desmarais' right- hand man. His brother is.... <br />
. BOB RAE: Rhodes Scholar and ex-NDP Premier of Ontario, who appointed.... <br />
. MAURICE STRONG to the chairmanship of Ontario Hydro, which he proceeded to dramatically cut in both skilled human resources and generating capacity [to provide a future need for power from James Bay/Grand Canal?] <br />
. PAUL MARTIN: current federal Finance Minister. Rose through the ranks at Power Corp., mentored by Paul Desmarais. Bought Canada Steamship Lines from him. Ran against Chretien for Liberal Party leadership. He attended the 1996 meeting of the Bilderberg Group, where those he mingled with included - surprise! - David Rockefeller. <br />
. JEAN CHRETIEN: Prime Minister. Daughter, France, is married to Andre Desmarais, son of Paul Desmarais, chairman of Power Corporation. Chretien's "advisor, counsellor and strategist" for the past 30 years has been MITCHELL SHARP, who brought Chretien into politics when he was Finance Minister. Sharp has been, since 1981, Vice-Chairman for North America of David Rockefeller's TRILATERAL COMMISSION. Chretien attended the 1996 meeting of the Bilderberg Group. <br />
. DANIEL JOHNSON: present Liberal [and Opposition] leader in Quebec. Rose through the ranks of Power Corp. <br />
. BRIAN MULRONEY: ex-Conservative Prime Minister. Now a lawyer and lobbyist for Power Corporation which, together with Ontario Hydro and Hydro Quebec, has just formed the Hong Kong-based ASIA POWER CORP., to help China to develop its energy potential. Power Corp.'s legal interests in Asia will be handled by a Hong Kong branch of Mulroney's Montreal law firm, Olgilvy, Renault. He is also a well-remunerated member of the board of Archer-Daniels-Midland, a Rockefeller-owned conglomerate, which is headed by Dwayne Andreas who, like Rockefeller himself, is also a member of the elite and secretive Bilderberg Group. <br />
. Mike Harris, Premier of Ontario, who headed off for a fishing weekend at a remote Northern camp with George Bush and Paul Martin soon after his election. Harris, like his colleague Ralph Klein, Premier of Alberta, is also a Bilderberger. <br />
So...we have the CONSERVATIVE party [via Mulroney], the LIBERAL party [via Chretien], and the NDP [via Rae] all tightly connected to....Paul Desmarais and Power Corp. <br />
And we have the Prime Minister, the Finance Minister, and the Prime Minister's key aide all tightly connected to....Paul Desmarais and Power Corp. <br />
Mel Hurtig wrote, in THE BETRAYAL OF CANADA: "Since Brian Mulroney became Prime Minister, Big Business has had effective control of the political and economic agenda, and hence the social and cultural agenda as well. Paul Desmarais provided much of the money for Pierre Trudeau's campaign, Brian Mulroney's campaign, and Jean Chretien's campaign." <br />
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So although it is appropriate to say....as the poem says...
....To satisfy the world's hunger for peace,
feed yourself with good judgment,
feed your government with good advice
and feed all others with tolerance,
goodwill, compassion and respect......
it appears that this is saying that feeding of your government with good advice will only result in them spitting it out when the boys in control say "spit that out and swallow this".
This helps to explain why Canadians need to work very, very hard to elect quality leaders who are smart enough, and tough enough, to deal with this. It is a problem that even when we do elect good people they inheret many bad laws and rules that are hard to break. So how hard will they try and how much time can they spend to effectively address this?
It is easy to keep our good elected leaders so busy on some issue or another that the time they can make to address this is quite limited. When we overstretch our leaders the quality of their leadership drops fast. The people who have the real power no doubt like it that way. That does not paint a good picture but defining a problem gets you half way to solving it. So thanks for bring this more out into the open.
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Canadabob
PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,
Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,
Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,
Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.
Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 4.
No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
Article 5.
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Article 6.
Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
Article 7.
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 8.
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
Article 9.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
Article 10.
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
Article 11.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
Article 13.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
Article 14.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 15.
(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 17.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 20.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 21.
(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 22.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Article 24.
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Article 26.
(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Article 27.
(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Article 28.
Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.
Article 29.
(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 30.
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
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Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.
Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.
What will happen to the US economy the minute Japan and China decide not to bail it out with more daily handouts, or the OPEC start selling oil for Euros? Ed Deak, Big Lake. BC.