Senlis Council: Afghanistan 'falling Into Hands Of Taliban'

Posted on Thursday, November 22 at 13:50 by a free mans life
On the basis of what it calls exclusive research, it warns that the insurgency is also exercising a "significant amount of psychological control, gaining more and more political legitimacy in the minds of the Afghan people who have a long history of shifting alliances and regime change". It says the territory controlled by the Taliban has increased and the frontline is getting closer to Kabul - a warning echoed by the UN which says more and more of the country is becoming a "no go" area for western aid and development workers. The council goes as far as to state: "It is a sad indictment of the current state of Afghanistan that the question now appears to be not if the Taliban will return to Kabul, but when ... and in what form. The oft-stated aim of reaching the city in 2008 appears more viable than ever and it is incumbent upon the international community to implement a new strategic paradigm before time runs out." Its 110-page report coincides with an equally severe warning from Oxfam. In a report for the House of Commons International Development Committee the humanitarian and aid agency warns that the security situation in Afghanistan is deteriorating significantly with the country's problems exacerbated by corruption in central and local government. Senior British and US military commanders privately agree despite their public emphasis on short-term successes against Taliban fighters. http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,,2214994,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

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  1. Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:37 pm
    The Soviets had some 130,000 troops there and got beaten out, hastening the collapse of their own regime.

    Doubling the present 40,000 NATO troops would be just another PR gimmick sap to mislead the populations of the participating countries.

    As I wrote many times in the past years, to "pacify" Afgh. would need half million troops on foot, with garrisons located in every village. The country has no roads and the present mobile forces can not control even the existing roads, because the Taliban hide in the bushes and come out when the convoy is gone.

    This present irresponsible waste of human lives and resources can only make the warped brains of people like Bush, Harper & Co. and the arms manufacturers and officer corps happy, but without any logical, historical, or military reasons and purpose.

    Ed Deak.

  2. Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:05 am
    Better yet study Sun Tzu!

  3. Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:01 am
    And the beaten Soviets home base was located geographically closer than many
    of the NATO nations currently there. For example, Canada is a bit further from
    Afghanistan than the ex-Soviet Union is. The garrisons bring to mind the
    imperialistic hey days of one Alexander the Great, arguably one of the world's
    pioneering "Globalists."

  4. Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:34 pm
    Alexander was a typical imperialist nutcase and the world was a better place after he died at 33, or whatever, going by memory. Imagine the damage he could have done if he'd lived another 30-40 years.

    Yet,the biggest criminals in history are the ones called "great". The more people they killed and enslaved, the "greater" they were.

    And so are today's "globalizers", nothing more than criminal colonizers, collectivizers and enslavers, with the perceived power of imaginary capital, while not forgetting the military to do the dirty work.

    E.g. Britain's military budget for next year will be 34 billion pounds. 10 days spending on the military budgets of the world would solve all the drinking water problems on all continents, now killing millions. But it jacks up the GDP, so everything is OK in the warped minds of politicians and economists.

    And this is what some call "wealth creation" and "civilization"

    Ed Deak.

  5. by MrPrax
    Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:13 pm
    <p><i>Canada 'falling into hands of Taliban'!</i> <p><b>Concern widens over 'anti-religion' book</b> <tt><p>The Dufferin-Peel Catholic board! <i>(another one!)</i> is conducting an informal review of The Golden Compass because concerns have been raised about the children's fantasy book in the neighbouring Halton board. <p>"It warrants us having a look at it," said community relations manager Bruce Campbell, adding staff members have been assigned to read the book and basically provide a plot synopsis "so we understand what it's about." <p>The Halton Catholic District School Board has pulled The Golden Compass – an award-winning book set to be released as a major motion picture next month – from library shelves after a complaint. <p>The other two books in the trilogy by British author Philip Pullman, which have been compared to the Harry Potter series, are also off the shelves for now, but available if students ask for them. <p>The Halton board is convening a committee to review the book and recommend whether it should be available to children.</tt> <p> <a href="http://www.thestar.com/News/article/279163">TorStar</a> <p>Bring the troops home to deal with our OWN immediate Taliban...like religious bigots who have for centuries told us what to read and write. <p>I guess Mel Gibson and his ilk doesn't have any interest in producing splashy children's books that preach decent universal social values, only fantasist gorefests based only religious fervor. <p>Kinda like the Afghan debate; 'magical' thinkers on one side and normal people with full use of reason on the other!

  6. Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:15 pm
    First - the reason the Soviets could not handle Afghanistan is their military fighters sucked big time and they were useless at making allies.

    Second - you do not defeat an enemy by using force alone despite what Admiral Halsey said ... you defeat an enemy by removing their will to fight. The Taliban are doomed and are beginning to realize this when the civilians that they intimidate start fighting back which they have been and which as Canadians we have been helping them learn how to do exactly this. The proof is the fact that many are now asking Karzai to talk whenever your enemy starts wanting to talk you know that they are in a weakened situation. Within a few years the controversies will be over which local governor is making too much money of some mine. Incidentally there is a new invasion going on now in Afghanistan - by the canadian mining companies!

  7. Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:56 pm
    "Bring the troops home to deal with our OWN immediate Taliban...like religious bigots who have for centuries told us what to read and write." <br><br> I'm afraid those brainwashed military minions of ours won't be of any help because they are loyal to our own version of the Taliban. <br><br> <a href="http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2006.10-politics-religion-stephen-harper-and-the-theocons/">Stephen Harper and the Theo-cons</a>

  8. Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:26 pm
    "First - the reason the Soviets could not handle Afghanistan is their military fighters sucked big time and they were useless at making allies." <br><br> I suppose that's why they were *only* able to overrun almost all of Eastern Europe and become one of the worlds two superpowers. <br><br> "Second - you do not defeat an enemy by using force alone despite what Admiral Halsey said ... you defeat an enemy by removing their will to fight." <br><br> Hummm, seems like your plan is going better than expected ... for the Taliban. <br><br> <a href="http://www.afghanconflictmonitor.org/CF-Afghsupport0707.jpg">Graph: Canadian Public support for Afghan Mission overlaid with fatalities</a>

  9. Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:58 pm
    ROFL LMAO theo cons I love it! You are just too funny ...

  10. Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:09 pm
    oops wrong reply -

    First - The Russian Military had a golden age before Stalin afterwords it went down hill so fast the it beat itself to the grave. In fact half the time they ever raised a weapon in afgahnistan they would fire their weapons like the Taliban - remain hidden behind a wall stretch thier arms and rifle way up then spray bullets everywhere hoping to hit something. This is one of the reasons why will defeat them ... when we shoot we kill. Just like Hiller said the Canadian's Army job is to kill people and we are damn good at it. The Taliban are good guerilla fighters for the most part in that they are quite clever but useless when the stuff hits the fan unless they can convince some kid to strap a bomb onto his back and blow something up the only problem with that strategy is that you have a limited supply. This why we kill so many more of them than they of us. After several years combat only 73 soldiers lost. Every Canadian should be proud of what we are doing and will continue to do despite any sound and fury from the left wing nuts. It is really telling that they just doscovered some Afhan Police headless - but this only goes to strengthen our releationship with the Locals who in turn inform on the Taliban who in turn get killed by us. You wait a few years and you will see.

  11. Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:43 am
    "It is really telling that they just doscovered some Afhan Police headless - but this only goes to strengthen our releationship with the Locals who in turn inform on the Taliban who in turn get killed by us."

    The Taliban are recruited from the local population, they probably head lopped the collaborator themselves.

    "You wait a few years and you will see."

    You mean the downward spiral I just showed you will suddenly reverse? I've already waited 6 years for a reversal of the trend, so I guess I'll just have to keep on waiting for this Afghan invasion to be different than all the other Afghan invasions since Alexander the Great ...



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