Charlie Sheen A True American Patriot

Damn Straight ! MR Sheen. For once someone is going to state the painfully obvious. There is more to the 9-11 story than the "Official version" . To believe the 19 Hijacker-wtc-pentagon myth one would firstly need to suspend :<br />
a) The laws of physics<br />
b) All common sense and logic<br />
c) The dynamics of cellphone coverage (in 2001) at 30,000 feet<br />
d) and of course $50 Billion US in defence spending through NSA, CIA FBI and other agencies (Eschelon etc..)<br />
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To say a weak man on a kidney dialysis machine in a cave in Bora Bora region could outwit Americas finest is simply absurd. Charlie Sheen is right. That does sound like the greatest Conspiracy theory.<br />
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Is it not strange that the Presidents' brother: MARVIN had the Security contract for the wtc towers? AND for Dulles and Logan airports? (Securacom, Later called: Stratesec) Gee... I guess they forgot to mention that in the 9-11 whitewash.. <br />
OOPs I mean 9-11 Commission.<br />
But then, with good'ol folk like Thomas Keane in charge (long time bin Laden business partner) we wouldn't want facts to get in the way of an investigation would we?<br />
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OH and by the way, isnt it simply fantastic all the ENRON evidence that would have implicated George W BUSH involvement also got destroyed when building 7 came mysteriously down?.. Gee funny that. Almost a conspiracy theory in itself.<br />
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Nephilim70<br />
<a href="http://imilac.batcave.net">http://imilac.batcave.net</a>

So I wonder. Were the explosives built into the buildings originally or were they installed after the bombing in the 90s?

Or were they installed after the lease was sold to Silverstein's company in 2001. You know, when they shut off the video cameras in the WTC complex so that they could do inspections.

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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
(Albert Einstein)

Not really, read this:

"From: "Scott Forbes" <scottforbes2002@hotmail.com>
To: skylax@comcast.net
Subject: Official Verison of 9/11 - new info
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:35:12 +0000

To John Kaminski,

I was pleased to read your article "The Official Version of 9/11 is a Hoax"
... Please note some other facts. My name is Scott Forbes and I still work for Fiduciary Trust. In 2001 we occupied floors 90 and 94-97 of the South Tower and lost 87 employees plus many contractors.

On the weekend of 9/8,9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36hrs from floor 50 up. I am aware of this situation since I work in IT and had to work with many others that weekend to ensure that all systems were cleanly shutdown beforehand ... and then brough back up afterwards. The reason given by the WTC for the power down was that cabling in the tower was being upgraded ... Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower. I was at home on the morning of 9/11 on the shore of Jersey City, right opposite the Towers, and watching events unfold I was convinced immediately that something was happening related to the
weekend work ...

I have mailed this information to many people and bodies, including the 9/11
Commission but no-one seems to be taking and registering these facts. Whats
to hide? Can you help publicise them?

Please feel free to mail me.

Scott Forbes"




At any time during this "power down" condition you could have marched a troop of dancing elephants through the WTC and no record of their being present at all would existed.

It was during this "power down" that the demolition charges were placed.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Sheen has put himself in a bad situation. Soon he'll be without work and won't find any. He will be discredited and shunned by his working peers. Yet he braved to stand up and be counted as those who believe 911 is unexplained. However, he and anyone else demanding explainations, will be faced with those with billions to reveal the story as they want it to appear. Haliburton, Bush and anyone else who can create facts as they want you to see them, will prevent the truth from ever being known. We will never be certain of the facts. They may be changed to be more acceptable but even then we will never be sure. Is this lie more believable.

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Expect little from life and get more from it.

whether or not Sheen put himself in harms way or not is moot to the scale of deceit perpetuated by the US admin,

To monday morning quarted back anothers life choices id a habit best brokenand i wonder what would motivate one to do it.
in the lesser case of speaking out to the greater case of being silent


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Real education must ultimately be limited to men who insist on knowing, the rest is mere sheep-herding.
Ezra Pound

The thing is he might have put his life at risk by going public. Those NeoCOns will not back up and if they are directly responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands, they can get rid of him in an "accident" of a "robery".

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Video: The Great Conspiracy: <br />
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The 9/11 News Special You Did Not See<br />
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i see. then the message is
don't talk!
comply!
Knuckle under!



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Real education must ultimately be limited to men who insist on knowing, the rest is mere sheep-herding.
Ezra Pound

Charlie is in a bad situation but Gary Busey can probably never come home. Guess George Bush will never watch lethal weapon again... <br />
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<a href="http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-117973.html">http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-117973.html</a>

It would seems so...

go check 911blogger.com

The good thing about that website is that you can find pretty much all the links of other 911 related sites. If you are not afraid of science, look for physics911.org. There are very interesting experiments and results and lots of things about those supposed cell phone calls (at 30,000 ft!!!) when experiments show that your cell phone is useless above 3,000 ft if you are lucky.

I am unaware of the caveat* to which you refer, however, Yes more and more folks are beginning to accept there may be more to the 911 thing than is let on.
Often people will label that which they have no personal experience of or that which they have not researched or do not believe.
I have seen D C do that on these pages, that aside&#8230;
There are many examples of instances told to be one way in the time and now know to be lies.
911 fits the criteria for that.
It is interesting that it takes a high profile individual to voice what many of us have been saying for acceptance to take hold.
Does Charlie Sheen&#8217;s thoughts on this matter of 911 eleven carry more validity than mine?
Apparently so!
And that being the case it IS the messenger and not the message and we all are far the worse for that attitude.
In my life I get vindication more often than not, BUT vindication is yet again an after the fact occurrence.
It is the collective &#8220;our&#8221; mentality that sees through the filter of our own lack of knowledge : ignorance that is problematic

It very well may have been &#8220;terrorists&#8221; of a sort that were jockeyed into a position and used for a larger agenda

Hell! It may have been all kinds of thing
But it sure the hell ain&#8217;t what we were told it was is




*caveat
1549, from L. "let him beware," 3rd pers. sing. pres. subjunctive of cavere "to beware, take heed, watch, guard against," from PIE base *skeue- "to pay attention, perceive" (cf. Skt. kavih "wise, sage, seer, poet;" Lith. kavoti "tend, safeguard;" Arm. cucanem "I show;" L. cautio "wariness;" Gk. koein "to mark, perceive, hear," kydos "glory, fame," lit. "that which is heard of;" O.C.S. chujo "to feel, perceive, hear," cudo "wonder," lit. "that which is heard of;" Czech (z)koumati "to perceive, be aware of;" Serbian chuvati "watch, heed;" O.E. sceawian "to look at;" M.Du. schoon "beautiful, bright," prop. "showy;" Goth. hausjan "hear"). Phrase caveat emptor "let the buyer beware," was in Eng. 1523.


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Real education must ultimately be limited to men who insist on knowing, the rest is mere sheep-herding.
Ezra Pound

Looking at all the evidences and what seems to be the truth about 9-11, there are hard questions that must be answered:

If the second plane that hit tower 2 was an army or delivery type plane (no windows) where are the people that were supposed to be in the commercial plane? Where are the people that were supposed to be in the plane that hit the pentagone (not a jetliner that hit the building)? Did they shut down the radars and keep the fighter jets on ground so they could get those people strait in the ocean?

'Where are the people?' What does it matter? Whoever planned this considered 2000 innocent office workers as 'Acceptable Losses' and the fire that would ignite the fury to allow them a free hand in the world. What are a few passengers on a couple of flights compared to that?

There is no evidence that the planes did not take off as planned, did not contain passengers as asserted. What is in contention is WHO master-minded this HUGE, COMPLEX, MILITARY OPERATION, which had about as much in common with a terrorist attack as Pearl Harbour had to 'two guys driving a boat into the side of a destroyer in the Yemen Harbour'.

This was NOT a terrorist attack. Not even in the same ball-park. It's like if the Indians had shown up at the Little Big Horn armed with M-16's, just for that one battle, never to be seen again, and went back to using bows and arrows the next day. Where were the follow-up attacks? Where were the increasing level of more effective attacks prior? Nothing, then Armaggeddon, then Nothing again? Ryyyyyyttttt.....

This was a carefully scripted military operation. Who pulled it off? Definitely the US Government is protecting them. The most likely culprits are:
1. A small group of powerful individuals in the US government and military, working in conjuction with some international assets, probably Saudi.
(reasoning -
They have Means - See Operation Northwoods, a secret military project to start a war with Cuba in the 1960's, using fake terrorist attacks and remote-controlled airliners that would be shot down by pilots flying cuban MiGs.)

Motive - Many right-wing hawks called for a new Pearl Harbour to allow the US to move freely out into the world and take an active role in conquering it militarily. Somehow they got their wish. The US government and oil interests had clear reasons to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. The Devil never get's his wish unless he rigs the game.

Opportunity - The CIA has the capability to easily plant charges in the buildings. Building 7 was an office of the CIA. The US Airforce has access to secret restricted airbases for launching covert missions. The US government controlled the ridiculous investigation.

2. A small revolutionary element of the Saudi military, attempting to drive a wedge between the US and Saudi Arabia
(reasoning - Most of the hijackers were Saudi. Many powerful figures in the Saudi Royal Family and Military forces hold DEEP hatred and resentment of the current warm relationship their country shares with the US. Many of these figures 'got dead' after 911, in obvious assassinations)

Means - They have access to the top quality pilots that would have been required to fly those planes at their performance maximum at ground level. These maneuvers would have been nearly impossible for some guy who had a few lessons in a simulator. He would have had maybe a 10% chance, of NOT wripping the plane apart with the maneuvers and hitting the building square-on. Somehow these amateurs nailed it, 100%, on THREE different attacks. COME ON!

Motive - A large percentage of Saudi Arabia really does consider the US the Great Satan. They despise them. Want them OUT of their country. Want them destroyed. Many of these Saudis are incredibly RICH, and POWERFUL, with access to military leaders, political leaders, ect...

Opportunity - This would have been extremely difficult without some sort of US help. See the House of Bush-House of Saud connection.

3. The Israeli Mossad.
Mossad agents were arrested on the day of 9-11 filming the attacks. Not as in, 'oh, we are spys in the US and we were just driving by and oh my god! get this on film!'

More like they had been set up for hours, knew the attack was coming, were in place, with multiple cameras, ect... No explanation for this was ever given.

Means - The Israeli Mossad is likely the most well-trained Spy agency in the world today. They regularly shape world politics with carefully planned operations involving everything from extortion to assassination. This operation would be their greatest in history, but make no mistake, they have a glorious history of success, and this fits right in.

Motive - Having an angered US stomping around the Middle East, attacking their Arab neighbors, has made Israel jump for joy and glee. It is one of the happiest moments in their young history. They are beside themselves with excitement on how this will allow them unprecidented opportunities. The latest will likely involve airstrikes against Iranian nuclear facilities, later this year, just as they did to Iraq previously.

Opportunity - The US is CRAWLING with Mossad. Indeed, of all nations, the US is likely MOST spyed upon by Israel, their supposed ally. In addition, the Mossad may call upon ANY Israeli businessman, tell him it's his national duty, and he will help them and the state of Israel. The WTC was owned by just such a person prior to the attacks, as was building 7. He made a substantial sum of money off the insurance claim.

The 4th choice, is that yes, indeed, a militant terrorist group called Al Quaida, led by an embittered former figher named Osama, who was trained by the CIA to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, but realized after they won that the US was just playing them for suckers. He planned this for years, with no obvious leaks, and the cells worked together to pull this off brilliantly on that morning.
Means - Little other than access to Saudi money. No military operation training for something on this scale, no pilots with military training for the flights.

Motive - 'Hatred of US Ways' appears to be motive. So McDonalds and Brittany Spears?

Opportunity - Getting this many hijackers in place, on the flights, without suspicion, having them commandere planes with box-cutters, which any moderate level martial artist on the plane could easily defeat, with fake cardboard bombs on their chests, all of this seems far-fetched, but ok, perhaps. Put together, however, the idea that these guys really had any opportunity to pull this together at all is the MOST RIDICULOUS CONSPIRACY THEORY I HAVE EVER HEARD!!!