XDR TB: Now More Cases Than Bird Flu

I saw an excellent documentary on the spread of AB resistant TB from Russian prisons where it was 'evolving', to New York hospitals. It took roughly a week to move between those two locations.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

So what is the transportation vector? I am suspicious of these mystery diseases that pop up out of nowhere and catch our much vaunted medical pros totally flat footed. Is somebody cultering this and spreading it or is it a result of genetically modified food or a side effect of some new monster medicine or is it the result of a combination of side effects from global corpse garbage or is it the result of just plain ignorance? Or is this a way to sell some outrageously expensive drug to governments who will then force their populations to consume them whether they like it or not. Forced vaccination camps, who would have thought that such a thing could happen in broad daylight?

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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
(Albert Einstein)

The vector is russian prisoners, who live in extremely cramped quarters allowing the TB to spread among the population. Then prisoners who are being given anitbiotics to cure it get released, and don't keep taking the antibiotics. They leave the prisons, spreading the TB among the general population.

"I am suspicious of these mystery diseases that pop up out of nowhere and catch our much vaunted medical pros totally flat footed."

But it isn't. A New York doctor who was delivering the antibiotics provided free of charge from a New York hospital to Russian prisons and tracked the progression of a strain of the disease from Russia to New York.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

BRACEWELL COMMENTS IN UPPER CASE <br />
Dr Caleb Wrote:<br />
TB from Russian prisons where it was 'evolving', to New York hospitals. It took roughly a week.<br />
- - I ASSUME TRANSMISSION TO NY WAS VIA MEDICAL STAFFERS<br />
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Milton Wrote:<br />
“mystery diseases that pop up out of nowhere”<br />
- - THIS WAS FIRST NOTICED ABOUT A YEAR AGO BUT HAS JUST GAINED NOTORIETY<br />
“is somebody cultering this ... or is this a way to sell some outrageously expensive drug”<br />
- - THE ‘XDR’ MUTATION WAS INEVITABLE - ESPECIALLY IN S.AFRICA WHERE CO-INFECTION (HIV) AND SUB-STANDARD MEDICAL CARE BREEDS ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE <br />
- - MANY OF OUR OTHER ANTIBIOTICS ARE BECOMING OBSOLETE BECAUSE OF BACTERIAL GENE-SWAPPING OF ‘RESISTANCE FACTORS’ - SEE: <a href="http://www.dobugsneeddrugs.org/about.html">http://www.dobugsneeddrugs.org/about.html</a><br />
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Dr Caleb Wrote:<br />
“The vector is russian prisoners ... they leave the prisons, spreading the TB among the general population. “<br />
- - THIS SEEMS TO HAVE DEVELOPED INDEPENDENTLY IN RUSSIA AND S.AFRICA<br />
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"- - i assume transmission to NY was via medical staffers"<br />
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YOU ASSUME INCORRECTLY. Wow, is that ever annyoying. <br />
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<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/survival/index.html">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/survival/index.html</a><br />
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Watch this, then get your capslock fixed. I know you know how to use HTML and <b></b>.<p>---<br>"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden<br />

On a related note, there is now an antibiotic resistant strain of H5N1 bird flu.<br />
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<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061030/ts_nm/birdflu_strain_dc">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061030/ts_nm/birdflu_strain_dc</a><br />
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<p>---<br>"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden<br />

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector"> Wikipedia - Vector </a><br> in biology has several meanings:<br> An organism that transmits disease by conveying pathogens from one host to another (vector insect)<br> --------- <p> I could find no reference to Russian prisoners carrying R-TB to New York. <p> The <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_09.html"> PBS documentary </a> was produced in 2001, even before the R-TB strain developed. <p> Please clarify.

"I could find no reference to Russian prisoners carrying R-TB to New York."

As I stated in my first post: "I saw an excellent documentary on the spread of AB resistant TB from Russian prisons where it was 'evolving', to New York hospitals." That was a link to the documentary.

Strains of the R TB have been developing for years, as with C. Diff.

"Please clarify."

I'm not sure what you mean, but at least I didn't have the urge to back away from my monitor

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

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