How Internet Monitoring Sparked Investigation Into Suspected Terror Cell

How convienient.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

"...sparked by local teenagers roving through Internet sites, reading and espousing anti-Western sentiments and vowing to attack at home, in the name of oppressed Muslims here and abroad."

This could be used to justify an end to free expression on the internet (i.e. censorship Chinese style) to prevent young peoples' minds from being "corrupted".

If we lose that freedom, Then by George Bush's own definition, we have lost the war on terrorism. If they truly "hate our freedom" (I just love that stupid bullshit remark), and it is taken away from us, then "they" have won. It will be all over but the shooting, which is a shame, because our side will be indistinguishable from the "enemies of freedom".

Expect lots of new laws designed to monitor what we are doing on the internet, justified by what is probably another faked terrorist plot.

This "terrorist" nonsense should be getting worn out by now. Is anyone still getting suckered or what?

"Sources say the arrests involve a "homegrown" terrorism cell — Western youths who have never set foot in Afghanistan but allegedly were radicalized here, and who are thought to be potentially as dangerous as the cells that once took orders from Osama bin Laden. Western governments, including Canada's, have repeatedly warned of this phenomenon and blamed recent attacks, such as last July's bombings in London, as the work of such groups.

The Canadian investigation involves a complicated web of connections, with alleged ties to two men from Georgia who came to Toronto in March 2005 to meet with "like-minded Islamic extremists," according to U.S. court documents."

The really BIG mistake that our so called "intelligence" agency is making is targeting only those of Arab decent. If they focused on any one in Canada for any length of time they would likely be able to profile them into a terrorist and they would be as accurate as they think they are now. Any one of us could profile as a potential terrorist resulting in our arrest because you are now guilty until proven innocent in this country.

Also using US court documents to back a claim is really where the guilty need to be proven innocent or in other words take it as lies until it can be proven truth. There is no credibility left for their information nor is there for our own government nor our "security" agencies. They have all lost my trust. I can't imagine what they will ever be able to do to regain it. I find that most disturbing frankly.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

"If they focused on any one in Canada for any length of time they would likely be able to profile them into a terrorist..."
and according to armyguy we are ALL traitors and should be shot for.... teason?

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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

I highly doubt armyguy has ever served in the military, how about some proof armyguy? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

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My freedom is more important than your great idea.
– Anonymous

I wonder how much just happened to be "found" by police. My guess is that these guys were planning a grow op. But they had electronic stuff. Look around my house and I am sure you will find battaries, maybe an extension cord, possibly an alarm clock, perhaps a cell phone, most likely a computer, some blank CD's, who knows what other "ingredients," or "bomb making equipment." I guess I should not complain though, we are talking about the best and the brightest from Ontario law enforcement. Get down with OPP, ya you know me, get down with OPP, ya you know me. I would not trust the OPP to be capable of collecting a urine sample in a golden shower.

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My freedom is more important than your great idea.
– Anonymous

I find it quite silly people defend those arrested. These kind of arrests are still fairly rare compared to the number of people CSIS admits are operating in Canada.

Of course, it is our immigration and refugee system that put Canada at risk in the first place...there was no threat of this in the 1950s.....

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

I think Canadians ought to realize that the laws are on the books already, they call it anti-terrorism legislation. It is only a matter of implementing it now, not adding new laws, so there is unlikely to be any debates or information flowing. For info on the anti-terrorism legislation go to <a href="http://www.canadianactionparty.ca">www.canadianactionparty.ca</a> and read the articles informing Canadians.(written some time back) Our laws were put in place under pressure from the U.S., needless to say, they sound an awful lot like theirs.<p>---<br>If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

"I think Canadians ought to realize that the laws are on the books already"<br />
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My GOD!! It's worse than I thought!! How in hell did we ever let them pass this bullshit?<br />
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<a href="http://www.canadianliberty.bc.ca/liberty-vs-security/bills-c35-and-c36.html">http://www.canadianliberty.bc.ca/liberty-vs-security/bills-c35-and-c36.html</a>

Anybody here have a problem with our police authorities monitoring the internet to catch pedophiles, hopefully, before they act?

That depends on whether or not they have to create or use laws that infringe on everyone's rights to do so.

With the exception of the pedophiles themselves, practically everyone is revolted by online pedophiles. Unfortunately, there are lawmakers (so far I hope just in the US) who would exploit this universal revulsion to bring in surveillance laws that hurt everyone.

I've got no problem with pre-emptive strikes against paedophiles. I do have a problem when police want more power to 'prevent' crime.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden