Newfoundland Separates

Posted on Thursday, December 23 at 11:57 by drcaleb
Not really. But Danny Williams, Premier of Newfoundland, has ordered all Provincial Buildings to stop flying the Canadian flag in protest of failed talks on Natural Resource sharing. http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=6cfce470-6d55-4d1c-9d1e-c173ec8447b7

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  1. Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:26 pm
    This is out of line. More provincialism. I'm not going to argue the feds have screwed everyone, including Newfoundland, but the flag represents the people of Canada not the Liberals, and this is just so low.

    If anyone has benefitted from central Canada's wealth it's Newfoundland. They create almost no wealth, and get billions in transfer payments. Their shipbuilding industry was allowed to die, but is Danny Williams going to blame Ottawa for that? No, he's going to try and become a political star. Cheap.

  2. Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:40 pm
    Newfoundland wants to have its cake and eat it too, screw them and especially Danny Williams.

  3. Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:27 pm
    Screw him is right.

    Screw the provinces rights. No sarcasm intended. If people want to walk around saying:

    I own this, I own that, I bring in this, I do that for him, and he doesn't do dick for me.

    People get a grip. The fish were in the water long before NL and the oil was in the ground before AB. So why is it that the human race has to divide everything up for profit? The Premiere of NL is immature, there is no way around it. Unless he want's to explain how a few flags will do anything other than making some people hot under the collar. If that's his goal then he really shouldn't get re elected. Talk about petty!

    And last I checked we were all Canadians. And last I checked don't we condiser acts like this treason?

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  4. Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:48 pm
    <i>And last I checked don't we condiser acts like this treason?</i><p> Be careful with big words like 'treason'. It may not mean what you think it means. In fact, it doesn't in this case.<p> What Mr. Williams is doing is 'protest'. Nothing can be done to the flag that could be called 'treason'. <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

  5. Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:52 pm
    Fine then I will just stick with immature.

    Protest? That's where YOU should be careful Dr. C!!

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  6. Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:53 pm
    I am hoping that's what you meant by typing:

    'protest'

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    When an invasion can bring a country its freedom then unconsciousness is true happiness.

  7. by gorian
    Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:55 pm
    There's treason in the legal sense (like Riel) and then there's treason in the moral sense (like Quebec separatism). I think it is a disgusting display of the latter in this case. How pathetic and puny a gesture. Maybe Danny should be sent to Syria. Just kidding, sort of. But it boggles my mind that we Canadians put up with such separatist antics. Division on everything else but the country -- that's a line that shouldn't be crossed. Especially by elected officials.

    G

  8. Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:11 pm
    No, I meant 'protest'. I'm not discounting it's immature.

    Burning the flag can be done in protest. Urinating on the flag can be done in protest (and earns the protestee a mouthful of loose teeth). None of these acts are 'treason'.

    'Treason' is commited against a country. The flag is a symbol of the country, not the country itself.


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  9. by RPW
    Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:55 pm
    Whatever anyone thinks, the simple FACT is that Alberta gets 100% of oil revenues. Newfoundland should be accorded nothing less...........as should all the provinces.


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    Or.....ALL revenues should go to the federal government, to be dispersed to ALL the peoples of Canada. (but would YOU trust the likes of Paul Martin with all that wealth?)

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  10. Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:31 am
    <p>A quote from one of the comments to that article on the canada.com website. I must say Melissa say's it best. <blockquote>"Can someone tell me what has happened to this country?I am just madder than hell that someone in public office could do that and not be demanded to resign.That flag does not represent the government of Canada,it represents the PEOPLE of Canada. -- Melissa". Comment link <a href="http://www.canada.com/national/soundoff/view.html?id=6cfce470-6d55-4d1c-9d1e-c173ec8447b7&soundoff=161839">click here</a></blockquote> <p>Kevin <p>---<br>"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." <br />
    --Bertrand Russell

  11. by RPW
    Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:58 am
    Maybe the demand to resign will come. But not from Martin - he does not have the credibility to utter such a thing. It would have to come from no less than the people of Newfoundland.

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  12. Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:06 am
    <p>Could it be that there is some kind of “Grand Design” here? Is there more to this than meet the eye? Is that just a symbolic gesture on the PM's part or some sort of "social engineering"? In that regard, should the following news be cause for concern? <p><a href="http://www.atlantica.org/library.asp?cmPageID=93&fd=0&id=1049&p=1"> New economic zone pushed</a> <p><b>Atlantica hopes to erase border for economies of northern U.S.states, Atlantic Canada</b> <p><i>The founders of Atlantica hope that northeast Canada and the United States will become an economic entity to be reckoned with. <p>Sporting the slogan "Two Nations One Region", the group aims to make invisible the border between New Brunswick and Maine. Its goal is to turn the region into one market of eight million people and to "raise Atlantic consciousness" with elected officials and business leaders. <p>The organization, which was approved by the Atlantic Provinces Chambers of Commerce and the Eastern Maine Development Corporation at a meeting in Bangor last month, convened officially for the first time on Thursday in Saint John. The group's website - <a href="http://www.atlantica.org">www.atlantica.org</a> - was also launched.</i> <p>Also this: <p><a href="http://www.atlantica.org/library.asp?cmPageID=93&fd=0&id=1052&p=1">Out of Atlantica</a> <p><b>Proponents envision powerful new financial zone encompassing Atlantic Canada, southern Quebec, northeastern United States</b> <p><i>Take a gigantic chalkboard eraser and wipe away the borders between Atlantic Canada and the northeastern United States. <p>That's what the creators of Atlantica want to do, especially when it comes to trade. <p>Atlantica often is seen only as a trading relationship among the provinces and states involved, but those in favour of the zone argue it's much more than that; they envision it as a thoroughfare or corridor for trade. <p>It's not about us buying and selling (among members)," said Brian Lee Crowley, who heads the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies, based in Halifax, and one of the founders of the Atlantica concept. (The name comes from the title of a book by Perry Newman, the honorary consul for Canada in Maine.) <p>Mr. Crowley and other Atlantica backers have been talking up the concept, speaking with Commons standing committees on foreign affairs and various chambers of commerce on both sides of the Canada-U.S. border.</i> <p><b>Very unsettling to note that Mr. Crowley, the founding President of the <i><b>Atlantic Institute for Market Studies</b></i>, is also <a href="http://www.aims.ca/aboutaims.asp?cmPageID=125">a Salvatori Fellow</a> of the <a href="http://www.heritage.com"> Heritage Foundation </a>, the US Conservative Think Tank, where he is one of “<a href="http://www.policyexperts.org/intl_experts/intl_experts_results.cfm">Your online resource to conservative experts on every issue </a>”</b> <p>What’s happening? Should we worry? </p>

  13. Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:24 am
    <p><i>Erratum</i>: Read above "Is that just a symbolic gesture on the <b>Premier</b>'s part or some sort of "social engineering"? <p>Sorry about that! <p>

  14. Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:26 am
    100%. Really? hm.



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