American Assembly Conference

Posted on Tuesday, February 08 at 11:59 by lgrisley
Of course all one has to do to determine the objectivity of the group is look at the list of those in attendance. There are a few token possible dissenters, but the Steering Committee and participants are dominated by deep-integration continentalists such as Drew Fagan, Allan Gotlieb, John Manley, Roy Maclaren, Jack Granatstein, etc. Of course it were the banks that led the BCNI's secret free trade initiatives and then the not-so-secret pro-free-trade debate. It's no surprise to see them pushing missile "defence." While it's not unusual these days to read and hear truly dumb statements from DND and Foreign Affairs, Pamela Wallin's absurd comments that claim the public opinion polls are wrong and that she believes "most Canadians support signing on" have to be in a prizewinning category. Wallin, by the way, was involved in the planning of the conference. When I asked her why there was not a more balanced and objective group in attendance, she seemed hard-pressed to think of any names who should have been invited. So much for the knowledge and objectivity of our Consul General in New York. As far as Rudyard Griffiths and the Dominion Institute, keep in mind in the future that he gets much of his funding from Gotlieb/Donner. For the Assembly group to suggest that Canada "has no alternative" but to go along with American wishes is preposterous and highly indicative of the validity (or lack thereof) of the entire conference. To suggest that Canadian and American values have not been diverging flies in the face of two years of detailed, repeated and reputable public opinion polls on the subject. To suggest that "there's little risk in joining" the U.S. BMD plans tell more about who participated than about the substance of the debate. Mel Hurtig

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  1. Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:48 pm
    Yep, all mentally colonized sellouts! What can we say.

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    Dave Ruston

  2. Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:11 pm
    Yep, let's define ourselves by being against whatever the Americans are for, and for whatever the Americans are against! That will show them that we're not mentally colonized by what they stand for!!! ...

    oh, wait a second.... hmmm... must grow brain....

  3. Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:14 pm
    yah har har, but last laugh is on you. It turns out much of the world is doing just what you suggested. Nobody it seems wants to have much to do with bushmerica.

    Grow a brain indeed...

  4. Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:28 pm
    Yes, first anon, you generalize well. Truthfully, I don`t oppose America just for the sake of it. I`ll take anything good from anywhere. Just as I slam my own government when it shows its ineptitude and corrupt streaks. I`d much rather Canada and the US be friends. It would be better for all. But the only way to achieve this is to assert our own identity, culture, and sovereignty, which commands respect. Appeasement and mentally colonized servitude only hurts Canada!

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    Dave Ruston

  5. Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:22 am
    go away troll.

  6. Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:09 am
    A NON,
    Today I saw the Egyptian Ambassador to Canada on Politics saying how happy he was that Pierre Pettigrew was interested in Canada participating in the peace process between the Palastinians and the Israelis. He said Canada is respected and needed with its Lester Pearson approach to peace. (Ha Ha Ha, what Canada is that anymore?) I could only shake my head at how the rest of the world still thinks we are staying on that Canadian course. I thought, what's really happening here today is that our so-called leaders have taken the best of Canada and traded it in for the worst of the USA. By todays standards the best way for any country to define itself IS to say it IS NOT following the path of world destruction led by the USA. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. You may think Canada has no identity but the rest of the world wants us to keep the one they obviously thought we had.

    Has it ever crossed your mind that Canada may be the *most* innovative and forward country that we are not the ones that need to define ourselves in comparission to any other country?

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    "Yeah, well, [Mr. President] we used all five fingers because that's the way our mittens are made." Antonia Zerbisias

  7. Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:36 am
    The Canadian elite, with a few exceptions, are traitors and should be treated as such. Basically, Canadians have always suffered at the hands of a comprador ruling class, one that first pandered to the "British Empiah", and now to the US neoconazi global tyranny. As William Lyon Mackenzie put it, "Rise Canadians!"

  8. Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:34 am
    Yeah but without the British there would've been no Canada, so duh.

  9. Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:20 pm
    Really!I don't think that comment would be appreciated by the First Nations - duh!

  10. Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:53 pm
    They are so-called 'First Nations', an attempt at forming an elitist aboriginal mentality - nothing to do with Canada or its founding.

  11. Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:28 pm
    So Native People don't have anything to say about this. Is that what you imply?

  12. Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:07 pm
    memo to fellow vivistas: Hopefully, by the time Fox
    News comes to Canada, the trolls will be too busy to
    waste time baiting on this site.
    Until then, better to just ingore their fulminations.

    Canadians can only expect the propaganda push to
    increase as the clock ticks on Martin's decision.
    The key is to turn those who are only "somewhat
    opposed" to BMD into "strongly opposed".
    We might need Bush's help on that and he very well
    could co-operate. His Europe trip is
    coming up and if he runs to form, he could piss-off
    enough people to make "saying no to Bush" the issue,
    and presto, BMD would become Paul Martin's Iraq.

    Just like Iraq, the issue is using our independence to
    say no to something that is against our values.
    If we can keep it about that, we will win.

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    "The very fact that the concept "anti-American" can exist exhibits a totalitarian streak that's pretty dramatic." Noam Chomsky

  13. Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:35 pm
    Natives shouldn't have anything to say about this. They fight tooth and nail to be complete supplicants of the government of Canada - this is above their petty fiefdoms.

  14. Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:38 pm
    "notacolony.ca" - that's too funny! completely defining yourself by what you are not. And who says some Canadians have a 'colonial' mentality? lol,lol,lol....



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