You take great care to convince by stating, ‘Canada's principal approach to address threats posed by missiles is prevention, through non-proliferation,arms control and disarmament (NACD)measures. We are fully committed to promoting and strengthening the NACD norms and mechanisms, including the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and the Hague Code of Conduct Against Ballistic Missile Proliferation. We are also working to increase understanding of, and adherence to, the principles of the Missile Technology Control Regime, as well as to strengthen international safeguards and verification. Prevention is our first line of defence against missiles and weapons of mass destruction.”
If you were serious about Canada’s commitment to treaties, you would not be cooperating in assisting in any manner to facilitate the BMD, you would be standing for and encouraging the U.S. to stop the proliferation of WMD!
I appreciate you taking the time after 9 months to respond to one of the electorate, however action speaks volumes and therefore I would ask you to explain clearly your recent actions, which contradict your letter.
First, when I asked (in previous correspondence) why John Manley and
Tom D’Aquino are sitting on the Tri-Lateral Task Force, making policy
for Canadians, I received the reply that Mr. Manley is a private citizen and is free to make any statements he wishes. Then I read that Ms McLellan has briefed that same Task Force in Toronto, Oct 2004. I am a private citizen also, why wasn’t I or the Canadian public, so briefed? Why is the elected and democratic government of Canada, taking recommendations from the business elite, rather than the people of Canada?
Second, you make no mention of Vision 2020 or the Project of the New
American Century (PNAC), which clearly defines the agenda of the U.S.
administration and their desire to control all of the world, through the weaponization of space. By not discouraging the BMD system, you are inadvertently putting all Canadians, and people of the world at risk of a full blown nuclear war. Why do you not join with European nations, through the United Nations and reinforce the policy for peace, the landmines treaties, and encourage the U.S. to get out of Iraq completely?
Allow the U.N. to go in and really assist the people in rebuilding their country, giving them back control of their oil fields and the resources from them, allow them to use whatever means they wish to rebuild the country, and not cooperate in the procurement of American companies contracts. Canada should be encouraging an end to the war, and allow the World Court to proceed and try those responsible for war crimes.
The fact that the U.S. refuses to acknowledge the World Court does
not bode well with the rest of the world, and Canada should not align
itself with such a regime. It would go along way to healing the world.
If we really believe in democracy and freedom, it is time for Canada
to put our reputation out there and be true to what we value.
Third, you did not address my concern regarding Lockheed Martin’s
involvement in our census, which is tantamount to force Canadians
into a situation of treason.
You have chosen your words carefully, as have I, but your role is to
serve me and all Canadians and you do us a great disservice by entering into side deals, secret contracts, trade deals and plans for the fortification of North America without the consent of the Canadian people.
Your government has done nothing to protect Canada’s oil supply,
our water, or people. The government of Canada needs to lead on the
world stage, in every effort to support peace. That is not happening
today, with the current trend of trade deals, and policy.
Perhaps the arrogance of your duplicity, is a holdover from the
Mulroney government’s quick hand work with the first FTA, done
behind the backs of Canadians; however, the public can only be fooled
so many times, and we do not appreciate the stated infusion of funding
to our military, which is not aiding in our own military, but rather
indirectly or directly funding the U.S. military agenda.
We are mopping up the mess they created in Afghanistan, and feeling
pressure to assist in their illegal war in Iraq. It is clearly nothing more than an attempt to gain control of all resources, land and people and Canada must stand against such regimes, not with them. The funds used to support the U.S. agenda, will undoubtedly be drained from our social programs, on the premise of national security and border programs.
Your vision is truly limited if you believe that fighting the dark shadows of terrorism will be won, by fueling the fires of this nuclear war agenda. Fear breeds hate, and Canada could diffuse that fear around the world if we learned to stand for the morals and principles we used to hold so dear.
I trust that your response will come within the next 9 months, but in the meantime, I urge you to consider the road before you and the enormous difference Canada could make if only our government had the will that the people of Canada have.
Yours truly
Catherine Whelan Costen
Canadian Action Party, Vice President and Candidate
cc: Connie Fogal, CAP Leader
Jack Layton, NDP Leader
Steven Harper, CP Leader
www.vivelecanada.ca
Previous correspondence
Letter from Mr. Graham, August 16,2005:
Thank you for your correspondence concerning the US ballistic missile
defence system. I regret the delay in replying.
On 24 February 2005, the Government of Canada announced that Canada will not
be participating in the missile defence system of the United States. This
decision was based on a careful assessment of Canada's national interests
and priorities.
However, the Government of Canada respects and understands the decision of
the United States to take steps it considers essential to its security,
including the deployment of a missile defence system. This is why, in August
2004, Canada and the United States amended the North American Aerospace
Defence Command (NORAD) Agreement to make NORAD's missile warning capability
available to US commands involved in ballistic missile defence. The
Amendment ensures that NORAD's essential missile warning function will be
preserved, and that Canadians will continue to benefit from the security it
provides. Allowing NORAD to share information on missile warning is not the
same as participating in the missile defence system of the United States.
Missile warning involves detecting missile launches and tracking their
flight; NORAD has been performing this role for the last thirty years.
Missile defence involves shooting down incoming missiles. The US Northern
Command (NORTHCOM) is responsible for the missile defence of the United
States.
Canada's principal approach to address threats posed by missiles is
prevention, through non-proliferation, arms control and disarmament (NACD)
measures. We are fully committed to promoting and strengthening the NACD
norms and mechanisms, including the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and the
Hague Code of Conduct Against Ballistic Missile Proliferation. We are also
working to increase understanding of, and adherence to, the principles of
the Missile Technology Control Regime, as well as to strengthen
international safeguards and verification. Prevention is our first line of
defence against missiles and weapons of mass destruction.
Canada and the United States have a shared stake in the security and defence
of North America. Our close partnership with the United States in
continental defence of North America dates back to the Second World War,
with the establishment of the Permanent Joint Board on Defence. This
co-operation has grown over the years with the creation of NORAD in 1958,
and the establishment of a Bi-National Planning Group in 2002. The
Bi-National Planning Group is exploring how both countries can better
co-operate in defending against threats to North American security after the
attacks of 11 September 2001.
As the Government of Canada made clear in its February 2005 Federal Budget,
we are investing significantly in areas that will strengthen Canada's
security. The Canadian government will provide $433 million over the next
five years for border security. We are also committed to equipping Canada
with flexible and responsive tools to enable us to deal with the full range
of threats we face--be they from failed states, terrorism, or the
proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. A particular priority is
ensuring the Canadian Forces is able to meet the security challenges of
today. Our commitment to meeting this objective was demonstrated by the
Budget's commitment of nearly $13 billion over the next five years for the
Canadian Forces. This investment will reinforce our ability to contribute to
continental and international defence and security initiatives.
I trust this information is of assistance.
Sincerely,
The Honourable William Graham, PC, QC, MP
Minister of National Defence
My Original letter:
Prime Minister Martin
Ottawa, Ontario
December 3, 2004
Dear Prime Minister Martin,
I have written to you many times on the issue of Ballistic Missile
Defence; I have written to various members of Parliament; and have never
received a reply. I have been watching as you act in the House of
Commons on behalf of Canadians and I have been waiting to see a real
sign of clear leadership. These are very scary times for Canadians and
I am certain you are aware, that most of us do not wish to become part
of the U.S. plans for BMD. You have admonished your MP Parrish for
speaking out against the Americans on this issue, and I do understand
your position. However I must say that having politicians who are not
afraid to stand up for Canadians is refreshing.
We have much to fear from this plan, and although you are reluctant to
declare the details, anyone with a little determination can read the
U.S.A.'s plan called 'Vision 2020' which will give you a colour plan of
their intention to weaponize, control and use space as their own private
'war zone'.
Now is the time to show Canadians that you care about peace, that you
care about tomorrow, that you are a statesman with leadership skills
suitable to your station and can represent us on the World Stage before
it is too late. It's long overdue for Canadian politicians to put
Canada first, we need you to declare that we will not be part of this
new arms race which is escalating as I write this letter and further
jeopardizing the entire world. I had a very special opportunity
recently to run in our Alberta election as a New Democrat for Highwood
Riding and I understand the pressure to please the electorate, but I
also know that one must not compromise their principles in matters of
grave importance such as this, we must do the right thing and we each
have our role to play in promoting peace. I declared publicly through a
speech I delivered locally, my abhorrence to this BMD;I risked my
reputation to stand for peace, I expect no less from my elected
officials. You have a rather heavy burden, but you also have a
tremendous opportunity to show the world that Canada is a leader in
seeking peace. They will follow, but you must lead.
You are in a unique position today as the leader of a minority
government. I along with many Canadians will be considering this issue,
along with the Lockheed Martin Census involvement, your ability to find
solutions to our trade deals and especially you and your party's ability
to stand up for Canadians in a positive manner to lead the world in
peaceful measures, such as disarmament; all of these issue will be
considered when next we go to the polls.
Canada deserves leadership that leads us into the future through peace
and diplomacy. I trust you have the will and the desire to deliver. I
await your response and will consider your attention to the will of the
people, when the next election is held.
Yours respectfully
Catherine Whelan Costen
[Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on August 18, 2005]
Note: www.vivelecanada.ca

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche
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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?
I think the conclusion is obvious, Canada promised the USA all that it needed to go forward with the program, and then to appease the vocal idiots so well represented here, Dithers made a big show about saying “no” to us bastards. Then he realized that by making a big show of saying “no” he effectively cut Canada out of the decision making loop so they have been trying to slither their way back into BMD. Its pathetic.
>> main focus of Britain's contribution and acknowledged particpation in missile defence is a single U.S. radar station on British soil<<
The USA/NORAD has radar stations/satellite monitoring facilities all over the UK. I would think that the VP of the much respected CAP would have done her homework better.
>> Canadian citizens are expected to accept that we are not participating in missile defence because we will not be shooting down incoming missiles.<<
Sure, why should anyone expect you to do your fair share of continental defense.
>> Why would the United States government need Canada's participation in shooting down missiles…<<<
We just thought you would have liked some say over what is being done to defend North America. It turns out that you did, then you didn’t, now you do again, maybe next week you wont. Screw it…
It reminds me of a quote from “Fight Club” :
“I'll bring us through this. As always. I'll carry you - kicking and screaming - and in the end you'll thank me…”
Our relationship is kind of like that, without the prospect of thanks.
You say CANADA promised, but what you have not understood is that the Canadian people were not consulted prior to our elected officials making any promises, we have been promised up the ying yang by our officials, and they reneg on their promises to us all the time. They don't keep them for the most part, but that is our internal problem.
The external problem is that they are making trade deals, and secret deals and selling out our country, and by that I mean my country, and my children and grandchildren's country, and that is not their right to do!
For your part, and I know many Americans are becoming aware that their government is involved in waging a war, that they don't want, that they weren't consulted on and that as reported after the fact, they were lied to in order to get the small support that they did to invade a soveriegn country.
So if I was sitting in your spot, I would be looking to my own countrymen for answers and attempt to right the wrongs going on in the world, caused by my own representatives, and not attempt to chastise people in their own country attempting to do the same. We only have one planet, and to participate in the rhetoric which promotes hate, and terror all over the world, and to assist in any way in the corporate military agenda, is to assist in the road to nuclear war; of which we know we will not survive, or very few of us will and those that do, will wish they did not!
You can rest assured I have done plenty of research into this matter, although I am also just as certain their is much unknown, much kept secret and far more to know than I probably want to, but I will continue to seek answers, and real solutions to the global climate of hostility.
I am not sure who enjoys this current climate, where people live in fear, but continue to wage war, continue to fund the war machines, and have not learned from the last major wars, that war is hell, and that the only winners are the corporations who profit from it. The Canadian people do not have designs on other countries' goods, we don't covet our neighbours lifestyle or resources. We really do seek peace, but some of our decision makers have bought into the idea that you can export peace, democracy and freedom, on the barrel of a gun.
I believe that posters like yourself, look at war as the somewhere over there battle ground, and that war is somehow not going to touch you where you live, it won't kill your family or your lifestyle, and the macho idea that fighting is the way a proud country should behave. The saddest part is that what your reps did in the past, the error of their conquering and controlling other countries did come home to you, on Sept11 and yet rather than look in the mirror, or look at who you have elected and what they have been doing all over the planet, you look to those, who don't want to play war games and call us cowards.
As a small child I was taught, not to pick a fight, and that it takes a bigger person to walk away than to fight. I also learned that you can disagree with people, and still remain friendly, and that their are times, when every person must stand up and speak out. Now is that time. History has shown us that their will always be certain regimes, that desire to conquer the world, and her people, that some people enjoy enslaving others, and that those people are called bullies, those are the ones we must stand against.
War is not a heroes choice, and controlling the world is not a admirable desire. It is sad that so many people have become desensitized by the media blitz of shock and awe, that looks like a Rambo movie, when the blood spilled on the ground is real! This is real, the nuclear war threat is real! This is not about being anti-American, this is about being pro-humanitarian, pro-planet earth, pro-peace and pro-survival! So we like you, have alot of work to do. The one point that you were correct about, is that nobody on the planet will thank you if you bring us to Nuclear War, or even to the brink of it! Nobody! Just because you have the power and the mindset, doesn't mean it is right!
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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?
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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?
What a hysteric... Does the "two tier" system no longer cover your valium?
You elect representatives in order to make decisions… When you and the rest of the CAP party are ruling by Candanista Junta are you going to hold referendums every time you make a decision? (Yeah..right)
>>So if I was sitting in your spot, I would be looking to my own countrymen for answers and attempt to right the wrongs going on in the world, caused by my own representatives, and not attempt to chastise people in their own country attempting to do the same.<<,
I am I do, I would just like to say this is the all time, biggest hypocritical statement ever made in the history of man-kind.
>> , and to participate in the rhetoric which promotes hate,<<
That is a close second.
>. and to assist in any way in the corporate military agenda, is to assist in the road to nuclear war; of which we know we will not survive, or very few of us will and those that do, will wish they did not!<<
The world is a dangerous place, there are people out there who don’t buy your “if we all just hugged there wouldn’t be any arms to fight with” scheme of defense. Preparing to defend yourself doesn’t mean “assisting in the road to nuclear war”…
>> I will continue to seek answers, and real solutions to the global climate of hostility.<<,
Well then, you can start by disassociating yourself with a bigoted website like this.
>>I am not sure who enjoys this current climate,<<
Susan Thompson and other bigoted demagogues.
>> The Canadian people do not have designs on other countries' goods, we don't covet our neighbours lifestyle or resources, <<
Boy you are high on yourself. Why is it then that most “famous” or “successful” Canadians that you celebrate made themselves in the USA?
>>but some of our decision makers have bought into the idea that you can export peace, democracy and freedom, on the barrel of a gun.<<
Its too bad that all of Western Europe, South Korea, East Timor and Japan are undemocratic, totalitarian and at war then… Oh wait…
>>I believe that posters like yourself, look at war as the somewhere over there battle ground, and that war is somehow not going to touch you where you live, it won't kill your family or your lifestyle<<
I live in New York city, I have seen war come to my country, I have seen my countrymen jumping out of buildings to their death in order to not be burned. It almost killed a couple of my family, it killed a few of my friends and has certainly cramped my lifestyle. I have also served in the US Navy, not because I needed to (I was already through college) but because I believe that I owe the country that has given me so much at least that. And yes, I have been shot at. It isn't fun.
Now, I believe that posters like yourself are incredibly naïve and totally narcissistic and completely ill-informed. (Some of you maybe well read, but you only take from it what you want to believe and surprise, it is what paints the most flattering picture of yourself.) You sanctimoniously look at yourselves as morally superior because you have chosen not to get your hands dirty. You have deliberately put yourselves on the sidelines in world affairs and your only real contribution to this “peace” that you enjoy and preach about is a litany of self-serving complaints against those that work, spend and die to acheive it. Self serving because they reinforce the self congratulatory myths that posters like you love to wallow in. Fine, if you want to put yourself on the sidelines so be it, someone else will do the lifting for you, but don’t you give up the right to second guess and constantly complain when you have elected to be someone else’s baggage?
>> he saddest part is that what your reps did in the past,<<
The saddest part is what your representatives have chosen not to do in the past. You have the second largest landmass, yet you have an immaterial, almost ethereal effect on this world. You just leave it all to someone else, Let the bastards handle it…
>> he error of their conquering and controlling other countries did come home to you, on Sept11<<
WHAT< SPACIFICALLY> DID WE DO TO EARN SEPT 11TH? Tell me. I loathe the mentality that would brand that as “payback” as much, if not more then I loathe the monsters that did it. What made 9/11 OK?
>> yet rather than look in the mirror, or look at who you have elected and what they have been doing all over the planet,<<
What specifically did we do to “bring this on our selves”? I really want you to rub both IQ points together and tell me.
>> you look to those, who don't want to play war games and call us cowards.<<
Don’t you think the belief structure that says, “only assert yourselves with your closest ally” is kind of cowardly? Don’t you think the mentality that says if you try to have an effect in the world you are just bringing on Sept 11ths on yourself is kind of cowardly? Don’t you think that letting someone else guard you while you sleep and bitch, whine and complain about it every step of the way because you have thrown away your say in the matter is cowardly? If the shoe fits Whelan…
>> I also learned that you can disagree with people, and still remain friendly,<<
Absolutely! What you cant do though, is scapegoat someone else for problems of your own creation on someone else and remain “friendly”. You can’t constantly denigrate and wish misfortune on someone else to make yourself feel better about your own position and remain “friendly”. When they are attacked you cant go around preaching that they had it coming and remain “friendly”. You cant kick them in the shins in order to assert yourself in a petulant, infantile way at every opportunity and remain “friendly”. In short, you cant be “unfriendly” and be “friendly”.
>> History has shown us that their will always be certain regimes, that desire to conquer the world, and her people, that some people enjoy enslaving others, and that those people are called bullies, those are the ones we must stand against.<<
So that is the way you see the USA. If we wanted to enslave you, you would already be pulling a plow. It just doesn’t make any sense, I guess it doesn’t need to work in your infantile mind, but for an adult it is so damn irrational. We are your largest trading partner, 85% of your total trade and that number is trending UP this year. We left a 55 billion US dollar trade surplus in Canada in 2003, a 65 billion us dollar trade surplus in Canada in 2004 and that number too is trending UP for 2005. We are the sole guarantor of your security. You have destroyed your military to the point where you have to whine to Denmark to please leave Hans island alone… Yet we are somehow out to “enslave” you. The breathtaking denial you show, you have the ability to completely divorce yourself from reality, a sign of schizophrenia. Yet you think you should be taken seriously...
>> War is not a heroes choice,<<
No, it is horrible:
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself" -- John Stuart Mill
That pretty much sums it up, don’t it?
>>...controlling the world is not a admirable desire. It is sad that so many people have become desensitized by the media blitz of shock and awe, that looks like a Rambo movie, when the blood spilled on the ground is real! This is real, the nuclear war threat is real! This is not about being anti-American, this is about being pro-humanitarian, pro-planet earth, pro-peace and pro-survival!<<<
Someone needs to shoot you with a thorozine dart, you are hysterical.
Second: You ask 'WHAT< SPACIFICALLY> DID WE DO TO EARN SEPT 11TH? Tell me. I loathe the mentality that would brand that as “payback” as much, if not more then I loathe the monsters that did it. What made 9/11 OK?' I didn't say you deserved it, I don't think the people in Iraq deserve the retaliation of the U.S. for something some Saudi hi-jackers did either! I don't think either of these activities, brutallity and carnage are justified. As for why? There are hundreds of examples of what your government has been doing for several decades which would explain why people are angry, oppression, multinational corporations taking over countries, with your countries military assistance, refer to Gen Butler's testimony for clear examples; there are many more, but if you aren't willing to look, I am not going to do your soul searching for you.
As for this statment, 'I will continue to seek answers, and real solutions to the global climate of hostility.<<,
Well then, you can start by disassociating yourself with a bigoted website like this.>>I am not sure who enjoys this current climate,<<Susan Thompson and other bigoted demagogues.'
Why are you here? Why do you post if you think this site is so bigotted?
As for your interpretation of coward, 'Don’t you think that letting someone else guard you while you sleep and bitch, whine and complain about it every step of the way because you have thrown away your say in the matter is cowardly? If the shoe fits Whelan…'
I didn't throw away my say in the matter, it was taken from me, and I am fighting to get it back, the old fashioned way, the democratic way! If you call that cowardly, so be it. I know the pen is mightier than the sword, and can cut very deep, but the wounds will heal, those wounds that come from a dagger, or chemical attack, or napalm, or depleted uranium, or automatic weapons, do not heal!
The pen can create fair trade deals, free people, enshrine rights, and open minds, the pen is not the tool of a coward, it is the tool of the visionary, the peacemaker and the freedom fighter. It gave you your Republic, your Constitution, it freed people from Slavery and it will do it again. Call it idealistic if you like, but I would rather have ink than blood on my hands.
Last: 'Absolutely! What you cant do though, is scapegoat someone else for problems of your own creation on someone else and remain “friendly”. You can’t constantly denigrate and wish misfortune on someone else to make yourself feel better about your own position and remain “friendly”. When they are attacked you cant go around preaching that they had it coming and remain “friendly”.'
I have not attempted to blame you or your country for my country's problems, nor for my country's current political situation. What I am saying is we do not wish to join you in the current world domination plan, nor the BMD plan to weaponize space and control the planet through it. We will stand for Canada, and for peace, we don't want to join you, we don't want to be owned by you and we don't want feed the military machines. Although you have made a long post attempting to discredit me, by using all forms of criticism, you haven't made an actual argument. There are many Americans that share my view, and to equate peaceful pursuits for the planet, to a big hug-in is to admit your narrow view of our choices.
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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?
How many elections have you won? I guess the people don’t want you.
>>The people in Canada, said no to FTA, NAFTA, and now to CAFTA, we said no to LM involvement in our Census, no to BMD, we said no to the Smart Border Plan, we said no to war in Iraq, we said no to GST, and no to private healthcre,<<
How did you determine this? Because you don’t want those things? Or did you hold a referendum? Its good that you are publicly, fascistically claiming to speak for “the people of Canada.” You toss out these proclamations like they were your pets.
I am not going to do your soul searching for you.<<
If you are going to make these stupid, insensitive statements on such a regular basis you might be asked to back them up. If you don’t have anything to back it up you are just going to look like a ranting fool or a little weasel trying to evade responsibility with crap like “ I am not going to do your soul searching for you.” Every day one of you brings this up, it is your absolute favorite topic, a fresh Yankee wound to pick at. It really does something for you doesn’t it? Once again, with out weaseling out this time: What specifically did we do to “bring this on our selves”?
Re. doing our soul searching for us… Do you have any idea what kinds of problems your country is facing? Not the least of which is the decline of this one, but also problems that are specifically yours? You don’t have the slightest idea do you? Because you have focused all of your attention on your neighbor in a frustrated, petty, resentful hate contest, which serves to stroke your ego and flatter yourself at the cost of ignoring things that you could actually positively effect.
>>Why are you here? Why do you post if you think this site is so bigotted?<<<
Your question answers itself.
>>I didn't throw away my say in the matter<<<
Yes you did, you have chosen to spit in the eye of your best and brightest by under funding your once excellent, world-class military until it is an international joke. You pay them like chumps, the equipment they have to work with is more of a danger to them then any enemy and when one of them speaks his mind your infantile politicians try to muzzle him. This is the system you support, indeed, by your comments you would take it even further down the road to complete ruin. So yes, you threw away your say in the way we protect north America.
>>and I am fighting to get it back, the old fashioned way<<
By whining about a neighboring country on the internet…
>>the democratic way! If you call that cowardly, so be it.<<
Nice try, I don’t think democracy is cowardly, from what I have seen here though, any notion of democracy is peripheral in your mind to the resentment of those bastards. What I wrote, and what you are pathetically trying to dance around is:
Don’t you think the belief structure that says, “only assert yourselves with your closest ally” is kind of cowardly? Don’t you think the mentality that says if you try to have an effect in the world you are just bringing on Sept 11ths on yourself is kind of cowardly? Don’t you think that letting someone else guard you while you sleep and bitch, whine and complain about it every step of the way because you have thrown away your say in the matter is cowardly?
Where is the incitement of “the democratic way” ??? If you want to be another politician you are going to have to do better then that.
>>I know the pen is mightier than the sword, and can cut very deep, but the wounds will heal, those wounds that come from a dagger, or chemical attack, or napalm, or depleted uranium, or automatic weapons, do not heal!<<<
Its like you take a heaping serving of clichés and combine it with a big pile of mixed metaphors and dump it into a blender with a load of bullshit and hit the frappe button. Sigh, Its good enough for the CAP I guess.
>>The pen can create fair trade deals, free people, enshrine rights, and open minds, the pen is not the tool of a coward, it is the tool of the visionary, the peacemaker and the freedom fighter<<<
So that’s how you see yourself? Seriously, how did you get such an inflated ego? Such a high opinion of yourself?
>>it freed people from Slavery and it will do it again. Call it idealistic if you like, but I would rather have ink than blood on my hands.<<<<
On and on and on she goes…
>>I have not attempted to blame you or your country for my country's problems, nor for my country's current political situation<<<
The record speaks otherwise, it is there for all to see.
>>What I am saying is we do not wish to join you in the current world domination plan, nor the BMD plan to weaponize space and control the planet through it.<<<
You are quite selective on what you answer, as is the other cowardly demagogue wannabe, but you still throw out the “we do not wish to join you in the current world domination plan,” when you don’t bother to answer:
“It just doesn’t make any sense, I guess it doesn’t need to work in your infantile mind, but for an adult it is so damn irrational. We are your largest trading partner, 85% of your total trade and that number is trending UP this year. We left a 55 billion US dollar trade surplus in Canada in 2003, a 65 billion us dollar trade surplus in Canada in 2004 and that number too is trending UP for 2005. We are the sole guarantor of your security. You have destroyed your military to the point where you have to whine to Denmark to please leave Hans island alone… Yet we are somehow out to “enslave” you. The breathtaking denial you show…”
>> nor the BMD plan to weaponize space and control the planet through it.<<<
So there are going to be weapons in space with the BMD plan? Are you lying or just misinformed? Or, more likely, are you parroting the gassy ratings of that circus clown Mel Hurtig? Show mw where there are going to be weapons in space through this plan, no “do your own soul-searching” evasions, show me. Convince me that there were going to be weapons in space please, post a scrap of evidence…
>> Although you have made a long post attempting to discredit me, by using all forms of criticism, you haven't made an actual argument.<<
You only see what you want to see….
>> There are many Americans that share my view,<<<
But not enough Canadians to elect you dog catcher, thank God. Ill tell you, Canada could be one of the greatest nations on earth. If only they would completely repudiate this pettiness, naïveté and sappy, hallmark card BS you push
As for our military, you better do more research, they are very well paid on today's standards. They are also the best trained in the world, as for equipment, true we could do better, maybe if we stopped funding the U.S. war machine we could support our own. One of the best parts of our military is that the soldiers are all volunteers who want to be serving Canada, and they are proud to do their job for Canada. We want to keep them working for us.
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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?
"Yes you did, you have chosen to spit in the eye of your best and brightest by under funding your once excellent, world-class military until it is an international joke. You pay them like chumps, the equipment they have to work with is more of a danger to them then any enemy and when one of them speaks his mind your infantile politicians try to muzzle him. This is the system you support, indeed, by your comments you would take it even further down the road to complete ruin. So yes, you threw away your say in the way we protect north America."
AND:
"Don’t you think the belief structure that says, “only assert yourselves with your closest ally” is kind of cowardly? Don’t you think the mentality that says if you try to have an effect in the world you are just bringing on Sept 11ths on yourself is kind of cowardly? Don’t you think that letting someone else guard you while you sleep and bitch, whine and complain about it every step of the way because you have thrown away your say in the matter is cowardly?"
ANON, considering these two statements you've made, I now have to wonder if Canada is just very, very parasitic in the way it does its warring?
Because, Paul Cellucci kept telling us that a Canadian was at the helm of NORAD on Sept.11th........ Horrified with what I heard, I have been asking and asking and asking someone in my government to be accountable for that statement. Because if that is the case then I am of the opinon that Canada is responsible for Sept.11th! To date no one has answered me. Considering what you are saying here, I'm now starting to think, you know, if Canada didn't want to spend any money on a military one way to make war with the US would be to go inside the biggest machine around and keep it from working the way it may want to. Do you have any insight into that? Do you have any thoughts about this idea that Canada is responsible for 9/11? NORAD did not stop the attack....Canadian at the helm.....At first I was suspicious, now I'm intrigued. Maybe we're just a big spy agency and have no intention of being an outright army? You sound like you're way more intimate with our military than I am so what are your thoughts on this?
4Canada/4Revolution
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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche
Well, they do try to reap the benifets when its over. I guess that is human nature, take a look though at what Canadian oil companies are doing in Sudan now. Take another look at Jean Cretchien’s ties to TotalfinaElf…
>>Do you have any thoughts about this idea that Canada is responsible for 9/11?<<
Yes, that idea is sooooooooo loony the only place it fits is in one of Siamdaves rants.
Read "At Dawn We Slept" by Prang, it illustrates the many missed opportunities that have to take place in order for something like this to happen. Missing opportunities is something humans are excellent at.
No, of course Canada isn’t responsible for 9/11. Canada did whatever it could do in the immediate aftermath and that was appreciated. The people who were “responsible” for 9/11 were the ones that flew the planes into the buildings, the ones that supported them and the ones that peddle their ideology of hate in order to exploit the divisions it creates for Power and profit.
The reason I post here, despite being banned, is that I don’t like people who peddle an ideology of hate (or resentment) in order to exploit the divisions it creates.