Three Blind Mice (Martin, Manly, McLellan); The Task Force On The Future Of [Nor

Realistically Mr. Riddell, what are your plans to deal with it? CAP is not a good option, they're too small. What about the NDP? Why don't you pressure Jack Layton to at least come out in public against this?

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

It would be nice to see a set up on vive, where people can send letters to all three Liberal stooges. Let's flood their email.

Kevin

I'm in if you set it up Kev.

I'm in as well. These three stooges are truly obnoxious
-- if they want to join the US why don't they just move to
Washington, D.C. and be done with it. It would be no
loss to Canadian politics -- in fact it would be a great
gain. If Canada has to "join" a club, I say get the
application going to join the EU. Why this blind desire to
jump on a sinking ship captained by an insane and
dangerous fool?

Thanks to some influential Canadians (and a good New York advertising agency) we are now all careening down a hill with the Canadian public starting to shout "stop" while others are pumping the gas pedal. Our relationship with the U.S. has changed dramatically in the last few years and so has U.S. foreign policy.

The United States Foreign Office's new policy towards Canada can best be described as Taiwan-Lite. Taiwan is a free and democratic state at the whim of U.S. national interest- It looks like a country but it is lacking an essential ingredient called self-determination- the political separation of a nation from alien national bodies, the ability to freely act on the will of its own people. The U.S. provides military protection, aide, and sovereign recognition to Taiwan and core American values would dictate that self-determination would be granted to any other state, yet U.S. national interest overrides these values and any attempt by Taiwan to permanently separate from China has brought down the obtuse wrath of the U.S.

Canada, on the other hand, instead of being denied self-determination is freely giving it up for commercial gain at a break-neck speed. We have become so economically dependant upon the U.S. that political decisions, which should be weighed in the interests of and by the will of its people. are now agonized over long periods of time because of the perceived wrath of a foreign country which wields unnatural economic power over our nation. We've come so far down this road that a foreign ambassador is instructed by his superiors to shout directions to our leaders and publicly admonish them without a care for civilized protocol. Welcome to Taiwan-Lite.

WE MUST GET OUT OF NAFTA

I'm in too. Let's do it!

I guess I'll use the word that none of you seem prepared to consider. That word is boycott.
If you really believe the things you blog about you would not buy American goods or products. Not their vegetables in winter, not their music, not their movies. You would not sell them anything. Not your beef, not your hardwood, not your garbage, and not your water. If you aren't willing to do that then you just want to negotiate more. You just want what everybody else wants, a better deal.
The left has a pet project which arranges the world according to the very Free Trade agreements that it hates. It is called the Kyoto Accords and strips our rights in one big gulp. Canadians are free to complain, not decide. This law is possibly the worst attack on workers that we've witnessed. The damage remains to be seen.
I can't afford many bright ideas like that so I think I'll just wait this boycott out. Remember too many bright ideas is what bankruptcy court is all about.

Got under your skin, did it?

<p>""" Remember too many bright ideas is what bankruptcy court is all about. """ <p>Speaking of bankruptcy. And I understand that this is not relevant to this topic. But since you mentioned bankruptcy. What would bankruptcy be like in Canada, if we adopted U.S policy. <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/09/business/09bankruptcy.html?hp&ex=1110430800&en=0fe9010b66c74656&ei=5094&partner=homepage"><b>Banks, Credit Card Companies Celebrate Impending Victory on Bankruptcy Bill</a></b> New rules will squeeze blood from turnips. <a href="http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm"><b>World's largest debtor unaffected.</b></a> <p>Kevin

Everyone e-mail the site admin. I think Jesse still takes care of the construction of the site. See what he can set up.

With the Liberal's shooting for mojority, which I think they will get it. It would be a good thing maybe to have all Liberal MP's masse email option on here.

Kevin

We can all write a letter to Martin, and blast him for
this.
My letter, as follows.

Dear Prime Minister:

the following notice came to me via a friend. (= Riddell's
press release. el. )To say I was shocked is a huge
understatement!

Let me be plain: an agenda, such as the following, set
by an unaccountable treasonous committee plotting to
sell me down the river, or better put, south of the line, is
absolutely outrageous. Have you people no brains, or
are you traitors, to allow this? I quote:

"1. A North American "brand name" – to be reinforced
through the education system! (Don't say 'Canada' or
'Canadian' any more. In the Gutless New World – it’s
North American!)"

How outrageous! My family came to Canada to escape
communism. We could have gone to the USA but
wisely, my parents chose not to, feeling Canada had
more European values.
These are the values your committee is conspiring to
trade for a future as part of a burgeoning
corporate/military dictatorship!


"2. Increased 'consultation' on monetary policy, with the
understanding that some form of North American
currency union could become feasible in the future.
"(Goodbye social programs and financial sovereignty)

Well, yes, we all know what happened to Argentina
when they adopted US currency. They went broke. You
cannot plan Canada's economy to fit Washington's
monetary policy.

For God's sake who would be dumb enough to call for
monetary union with the biggest debtor country in the
world. Are those committee members brain dead? I
never did think Mr. Manley the smartest man alive, but
that he should be this dumb? I am flabbergasted. Mr.
D'Aqino has been in the service of American Corporate
interests for years. Why doesn't he just move down
there, and leave Canada alone!

"3. Military integration into the American forces "(why
even bother arguing about Missile Defence?).

Do we really want our youth fighting for the US
corporate elites, such as Big Oil? Breathing in DU dust,
and other illegal, toxic weapons they deploy? I do not
want my grandchildren exposed to this sort of hazard!

"4. A 'resource pact' pertaining to (OUR) oil, gas – and
fresh water! "(for use in America, not here)

When the Russians occupied the Czech Republic, they
took out all the uranium (one of the largest deposits),
and moved them to Russia. This will happen to our oil
and water, it will not help Canada to thrive, but those
folks south of the line.
And I bet they will still be putting up tariffs against our
wood and beef. Let's get real, Prime Minister! These
committee members should be tried for treason!

"5. A 'North American' security perimeter and Passport
(Canada = America)"

But I bet it will be of two levels. We'll have the North
American passport, and the Americans will have a
higher grade US one. Not that I want to carry a US
passport. In more and more countries it's a passport to
getting kidnapped and killed. My friends tell me that
more and more Americans carry a pack with a
Canadian flag sown on it, when they travel.

Canada's passport has for years been highly
respected. This is the passport we want to give up?
Let's get real!

"6. A 'harmonized'(?) border system (no independent
health, safety standards, etc.)" This means US
controlled, of course!

Let me put it plainly: I do not want to be harmonized with
the USA. This newspeak that still means they will own
us is not acceptable to me. It is not in the best interests
of my family, and the country I love, Canada.

Finally, if Mr. d'Aqino, and Mr. Manley think that
propaganda will sell us this bag of US subversion, they
are fools. Millions of us in Canada, those millions of
new Canadians, immigrants and refugees from
various "isms", are not gullible. We've heard lies before,
and have a fine sense for detecting them. I've heard the
Nazi version and the Communist version. I am not
buying the US corporatocracy's version.

You and the Liberal Minority Government are still
presumably a Canadian Government, and are
supposed to protect Canada, and her citizens'
interests.

I demand that you put an immediate stop to this
committee's outrageous antics and dissolve it. If you do
not have that power, what is their business planning
something for the Canadian government, and the
people of Canada?

I demand this committee be dissolved, and their
subversive plans repudiated.

Eva Lyman
Celista, BC

The Vive board has already said in our meetings that we want to go forward with actions around the task force, and an email campaign would probably be a great place to start. It might be very worthwhile to email politicians and ask them to highlight/raise more outcry over this issue; it might also be worthwhile to email the three Ms with reasons why deep integration is NOT a good idea and why we oppose it. So I have emailed our governing and advisory boards and asked them to check out this conversation so we can make a final decision on setting up an email campaign and get that going. Meanwhile please keep the suggestions coming. How can we best apply pressure here? And what else could we do? (posters? bumper stickers? protests? etc etc?)

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Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

This is a good thing, Susan. We need more pressure on them. I`ve e-mailed countless politicians countless times about many different issues! And if they still don`t listen.... GENERAL STRIKE! Look at the farmers blocking traffic on the 401! We`ve all got to get in on it!

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Dave Ruston

Although it is a good idea to e-mail government ministers, one can also heighten awareness by crafting a news release to be sent to major newspapers. Your small local free advertiser type newspapers also accept 'opinion' pieces or letters to the editor. Further, specific columnists such as Foreign affairs writers and Canadian International writers such as G. Dyer etc may be sparked to comment on aspects of this. And of course, there is the Counsel of Canadians. Another way to get the word out is to have an easy Logo link to Vive Le Canada which can be dropped onto ones blog site. This may move the site higher up the google search if enough are out there. Just some ideas.