Canada Tries To Establish Seabed Sovereignty

The USA will never agree to this because not only do they fail to recognize other countries` 200 mile coastal limit from time to time, but they also try to tell Canada that our own Northwest passage doesn`t belong to us! Anyone who looks at a map can clearly see that the Northwest passage belongs to Canada!

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Dave Ruston

Under the UN treaty, if we don't map it, we don't own it. If the US does map it in the 10 year time limit - then they own it!

Finders, keepers!




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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

Then Bravo to the gov for getting on this -- and full steam ahead!

G

Who cared about the UN.....wonder which person will make those billions. (roll)

Under the UN treaty, if we don't map it, we don't own it. If the US does map it in the 10 year time limit - then they own it!

Finders, keepers
Findes freaking keepers???
was it lost?
Geez Doc c
I have come to expect far better from you!
And please remember who is being delt with here - those same wondeful fold who use invasion as a tool for arbitration
Sheesh

The submarine Nautilus (USA) traveled to the North Pole, under the ice, in 1958. This was the final proof that there was no land at the North Pole, just a frozen ocean. The trip was 1,830 miles from the Pacific Ocean, throught the Bering Strait, past the North Pole, to the Atlantic Ocean off the east coast of Greenland, then past Iceland and down to Ireland.

Of course, they have kept everything they've done since then a big secret, too: SCICEX was a 5 year program (1995-1999) in which the Navy has made available a Sturgeon-class, nuclear powered, attack submarine for unclassified science cruises to the Arctic Ocean. Beginning with a test cruise in 1993, civilian scientists together with Navy personnel have collected a variety of information on the geology, physics, chemistry and biology of this critical region. The unmatched mobility of submarines in ice covered oceans has allowed data to be collected from over 100,000 miles of shiptrack in the Arctic providing samples from some regions that have never before been visited.

Just curious: what validity do you think Canada's "claim" to something offshore at any time in the future will hold, after a 47 year headstart by the rest of the world?

That's too funny! Canada couldn't establish sovereignty over a kindergarten - we have no Navy, Army or Air Force of any consequence and we do whatever the United Nations tells us to do, except contribute to the world.

Yes but the U.S. won't have such a big navy forever.

Because we assert claim to the land surrounding it, and maintain a military presence to that land on a regular basis in accordance with international law.

Once we conclude our part of the newest agreement by mapping the seabed surrounding that land, then our claim will be complete under international law.


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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

No. There is a principle of law called the right of discovery. If another nation has already mapped it, and particularly if they have found something of value and started to develop the same, just how can Canada claim it later?

Let me just say, if that is what you intend, you better beef up the "military" you claim will enforce your abrogations of the rights of others.

And get ready to be called Warmongers.

Haven't read that part of the International Law of the Sea yet, eh. I just got to that chapter myself.

If you want to rely on the right of discovery, most of North America would belong to the Hudson's Bay company. We've gone past that, and the International Law of the Sea expresses in excruciating detail how to express soverenty on the sea bed within a countries territorial waters.

I'm pretty sure that the US has detailed undersea surveys of the Norwegian Fjords too, doesn't mean they discovered them.

But, I see by the way you put the word military in quotes, and use of the word 'warmongers' that you really are not interested in a discussion, but wish to troll some more.

Enjoy!


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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

Now, that was spoken like a true Canadian. If Canada does nothing long enough, maybe Canada will be able to gain from it.

Such bravery! Such resolve! Da World needs More of Dees Canadian Values!

Now, go tell all that to the great evil power, Denmark.

Seems they've already taken some Canadian "land", without bothering to tell you gentle superior beings.

Perhaps they were just being polite, and didn't want to intrude on your smugness.

"<i>If you want to rely on the right of discovery, most of North America would belong to the Hudson's Bay company.</i>" <p> Or perhaps to the natives who had it "mapped" long before HBC came on the scene, and kept all the white guys from getting lost?</p><p>---<br>RickW