Bush Should Apply "Justice" Consistently, Or Reconsider His Position

Posted on Wednesday, December 17 at 12:11 by sthompson
Significantly, Bush's naked disrespect for "judicious process" will warrant little criticism in the America media. By contrast, any groups promoting a fair, transparent trial for Hussein will be lampooned, ridiculed, or even threatened, for daring to defend the "Butcher of Bagdad". In fact, the notion of human justice has already been lost in the media frenzy to secure the most exciting sound bites. Americian politicians, journalists, commenators and others jockey for position as they call for Hussein's execution, praise the bravery of American forces, and celebrate America's selfless role as the liberator of Iraq in particular, and the world in general. Other than a small minority of critics who are routinely silenced (Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, Michael Moore, and others), little of substance makes its way into the US media. For example, the American public is rarely asked to consider the possibility that they are invaders, not liberators in Iraq. Other than the "left wing nuts", or journalists seeking professional suicide, the American people have never been exposed to a serious critique of what the US is doing in Iraq, or what it has done in the world for the past 50 years or so. But, just for a moment, let's employ the Bush propensity for consistency in his respect for the law. After the terrible tragedy of 9/11, Bush announced that the terrorists (Osama bin Laden, et al) , or those helping terrorists, would be found and brought to justice. Bush stated that those helping terrorists are just as guilty as the terrorists. And, President Bush has been unequivocal in his targeting of bin Laden as the architect of 9/11. Instead of the media repeating the stereotypical good guys versus bad guys script, they need to dig beneath the surface of issues-they would find all the intrigue, hypocrisy, treachery, and dishonesty of a fictional drama. While this makes journalistic sense in the quest for the truth, it would present a minefield of dilemmas for President Bush. Parenthetically, because of President Bush's respect for "justice", he would have to put half of his cabinet, as well as his father, on trial. First, George Bush Sr. was intimately involved economically with the bin Laden family. Thanks to money from the bin Laden family, as well as from the Saudi Arabia government, the Bush family wealth grew exponentially. Second, the American government actively trained and supported Osama bin Laden in his killing of the Russian invaders of Afghanistan. Third, the "Butcher of Bagdad" got his carving lessons from the American CIA and other American intelligence groups. Fourth, much of the genocidal slaughter by Hussein, was done with the help of American weaponry, training, intelligence and personnel. Fifth, Donald Rumsfeld (one of President George W. Bush's most trusted confidants in the cabinet) was actually in Bagdad, delivering advice to Hussein during the war against Iran. Pictures from that era show Rumsfeld and Hussein flashing smiles and sharing laughter. It is also important to remember that during this Iran-Iraq war "mass gassing and other atrocities" were committed by Hussein. However, these atrocities were condoned by the American government. Ironically, these are the same kinds of atrocities that President Bush refers to when he calls for the execution of Hussein. Now, here is the Shakespearean dilemma. Should President Bush instruct the justice department to investigate his father and selected cabinet ministers for aiding and abetting known terrorists? Should they be brought to trial for their alleged crimes? Or should President Bush re-think his position on capital punishment, just in case there is one fewer family member at his dinner table? Sardonic humour aside, the sanctity of life should always be revered whether it is in our family, community, country, or the world at large. Richard Julien Saskatchewan

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  1. Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:10 pm
    Very good and straight to the point - apply that facade of justice equally and most will not complain.

    Bush Sr, Baker, Rumsfeld, Chirac and countless others have hands stained as red as Saddams over the course of his adventures yet we will see nothing let alone hear anything about those well known facts. They need to be repeated for the world to hear and see. They too should face justice, for that would finally stop the bullshit that goes on behind closed doors in our name.

    Accomplice to George Bush Jr only seems to count when it comes to poor Americans and so called terrorists fighting to throw out the occupation forces. Kenneth Lay - a big and long time supporter of the Bush family is yet to face justice over his billion dollar theft, yet its common knowledge Dubya sometimes spent as little as 15 minutes to review appeals to death sentances. Death - 15 minutes, billion dollar swindle - who cares! Steal a chocolate bar in california three times - go to jail for life. Rob millions of savings and advancement, get nothing.

    Outside of America its clear the rest of the world sees the double standard but its gotten to the point that those in control in America just do not care or do not need to care. The Arab world must boil inside when they see the man created by the republicans, then torn down by the republicans under a pretense of \'american justice\' face said justice. Yet the men behind the creation go on doing what they do best - manipulating and profiteering.

    History is always the best judge - our great grandchildren will make many of the same comments we make about those who stood by and watched the rise and fall of facism before us. Stay silent and reap the whirlwind. Speak up, and at least be remembered for trying.

    Roy

  2. Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:13 pm
    Love your writing, alas someone with the honor to defend the real truth. Saddam in particular is a pandora\'s box. Clearly the CIA hopes to control the trial to avoid the \'truth\'.

    After Saddam\'s attempted assassination of the former Iraqi military dictor Qisim, he hid in Egypt and the CIA funded his apartment. Eventually Saddam with the CIA\'s help was said to have a role in the eventual assassination of Qisim (since Qisim had started turning to the USSR for arms). I even heard that the CIA gave a list of pro-USSR communists for Saddam\'s henchmen to murder when Saddam\'s uncle eventually became president.

    What the US press will try to ignore for the sake of our soldiers\' and nation\'s reputations is the fact that if Saddam was a brutal tyrant for the past 30 or so years, it was the USA that put him in that position, at a time when Bush Sr. was in charge of the CIA.

  3. Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:25 pm
    Regardless of the Bush position, the Iraqi populace will be calling for a sentence of death should Hussein be found guilty, regardless of who sentences him. The uncivilized countries that still practice capital punishment include most if not all Arabic countries, and to them, Saddam escaping this highest justice in their eyes will be justice denied and hijacked by people who dictate morality to the rest of the world, and have no respect for Islam.

    Regardless of my own position on the matter, there is a case to be made for both sides, aside from nationality or personal history. The same argument about the sanctity of life will be raised if he is spirited away to a world court for summary incarceration for the remainder of his days. The Iraqi voice will then cry, where is justice, even as other countries (Iran and Kuwait) await their day in court to charge Saddam. A full accounting of all matters should be made, but his final fate once this is done should rest with the people of his homeland.

    And, as the Bin Laden family went to great pains to point out, they don\'t associate with Osama, don\'t share his militant form of Wahabism (it\'s bad for business), and have not for decades.

  4. Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:36 pm
    Good response Roy. I wholeheartedly agree that the average American viewer/reader of the US media distortion has got NO CLUE WHAT the rest of the world thinks of America (let alone WHY). The only consistency here under this present adminstration is their loyalty to the \"old boy\" network for business profiteering and the \"looting\" of the countryside (be it the USA or Iraq). The statments made by our \"esteemed\" leader represent hypocrisy in its highest form.

    Warren

  5. Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:45 pm
    More left wing drivel, with another psychotic anti-American, Anti-Bushite hysterical loony tune spewing his venom.

  6. Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:49 pm
    Your simple analysis dismisses the possibility that Saddam, etc. are independent actors. It is not the US that manipulates all before it as your analysis implies. All other countries are given this benefit but not the US. I read from a previous writer that the US armed Osama against the USSR. But nothing is ever said about the Soviet invasion that spurred that policy decision. Nothing is said about Soviet butchery there. It seems to be the same thing over and over again. On the one hand, the world tells the US that it is no different than anyone else. But on the other hand, the US is singled out for unique scrutiny. We are blamed for supporting Iraq earlier(against Iran) but virtually the entire western world was in that \'coalition\'. Several countries, most notably the Saudis, helped fund Osama against the Soviets. But only the US is singled out. How can anyone not expect for people in the US to be so tired of these one-sided blasts?
    The US is just another country out there being swayed by the same historical forces as the rest of the planet. Because of our wealth we do have a large impact. This should not be an excuse for blanket condemnations and slanted attacks. Virtually the entire planet blasted the US throughout the entire cold war. The Soviets could do no wrong and when they did, they were provoked by the US!
    If this obvious anti-Americanism continues, the attitude of the US public will harden more and more. I am sure the world does not want an America that feels totally alone and despised. This is a recipe for disaster.

  7. Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:54 pm
    We Americans don\'t give a rat\'s ass what you think of us, you *censored*ing Canadian weenies. Keep supporting terrorism, you *censored*ing French pansies.

  8. Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:26 pm
    From one of the hateful and hated Americans: ALL the bad guys should be eliminated. Not jailed, but eliminated. Yes, even all the violent criminals in the U.S. It\'s not getting done, thanks to all the lawyers who make money defending these vile creatures, and to our justice system that lets these creeps spend their time in tax-supported prisons. But at least I\'m glad Bush gave his opinion on the subject. What is going on in these wimpy countries like France, Canada, etc? No death penalty? You\'re out of your mind! I say kill \'em all. There are too many humans on the earth anyway (seriously, 12 billion by 2030). All you people can do is blame the evil Americans. We should justify our reputation by taking over a few of these opposing countries. Why not, they hate us anyway. Why be politically correct? It\'s probably just a matter of time until another terrorist strike is made in the U.S. Hopefully the U.S. responds with even more force than the last time.

  9. Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:52 pm
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    Hey, speaking as an American here, I must say I do not agree with almost any of what our \"Emperor\" does or says. Rummy is now saying that Saddam will not be counted as a POW, meaning that he can be tortured, executed or just locked up forever with no trial.
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    I\'d like to see these bums tossed out of office, as would most of my friends over here. I think the chances of that are pretty good.
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    What I don\'t agree with in this article though, is the relentless focus on what the media is or is not doing. I would say that I can\'t really count ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, or M$NBC among real news organizations anymore -- it\'s just propaganda with almost no hard coverage, no penetrating questions, nothing. Media outlets in the US have long since ceased to be the adversarial public advocates that Americans want and deserve, and what we get instead are show trials, obsequiousness, and prayers to Moloch.
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    There are good sources here though too, and more and more Americans are turning to blogs, foriegn papers, news websites and other alternatives. No matter what, the truth will come out.
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    Happy Holidays
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  10. Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:21 am
    Flick sez:<br> <br> My my! We aren't ALL french here.<br> <br> Check out my newest image in response to your post, Mr:<br> <br> http://members.shaw.ca/harrisonflick/apemovie.htm<br><br>

  11. Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:18 am
    Nice try, we now understand what is happening to the otherwise wonderful country of Canada, the leftest eleteists of the American media, and people like al franken, babs striesand, michael moore,and so many uneducated others and to their everlasting shame, many educated others, have spread this poison all over the world. Why do you believe such exagerations and lies? Obviously, because you want to believe such nonsense. michael moore is a lier and has found a way to rake in the dough, but you can\'t see the forest for the trees. PROOVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS!!

  12. by N Say
    Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:49 am
    The USA is telling the world what a bad guy Saddam is, but the USA can\'t/won\'t acknowledge its own crimes. That\'s why it seems like the USA is being singled out. If it were France trying to convince the world that France should ataq Iraq, then people would be saying that Chirac shouldn\'t have helped/befriended Saddam a long time ago either.

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    "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school

  13. by N Say
    Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:52 am
    Just look up your favourite person here:
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/
    I\'m sure you\'ll find lots of nice things to reinforce the mystique of \"America\".

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    "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school

  14. Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:56 am
    It was his own butchery and greed and meglamania that put him in power along with the Baathists in the neighboring country. Jimmy Carter (what a disaster for this nation) made the first alliance with Saddam. Saddam raped his own country to arm himself. Yes we should have removed him in 91.



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