Martin Challenges Klein On Health Plan

Any province that goes against the Health Act will not get funding.

Having said that, the Libs themselves opened the health act to allow more private delivery of healthcare.

Strange situation, as Martin was giving a news conference today asking why Klein wouldn't produce the document until the 30th, after the election.

Klein is up to something, you can take that to the bank.


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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

yes but the Canada Health Act is for all Canadians, and therefore the Premier of one province does not have the right to take away my right under the Charter...or does he? Klein seems to be very pleased with himself these days, and it would appear that the plan of action has been in place for some time, he claims the people in Alberta aren't concerned about it...well I beg to differ on that, but maybe because many don't think they'll have a farm, or house or any way to meet basic needs, the healthcare issue is on the backburner so to speak. Could be good timing on his part...but I think he is wrong and Albertan's will start speaking up on this very soon.

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

Pretty much how I read that too. If we're integrated who needs any of this. What he doesn't talk about is how much that will cost us in US taxes. I can see why he isn't making his living as an economist.

This reply is misplaced. It should be on the Toronto Star article stating Harper's bad numbers! I went to reply to you there Whelan and it went back to the home page again and then I got all lost and mixed up and there were no bread crumbs and well, what's new?

Oh brother. The Canada Health Act is an act of Parliament. Provinces have the power over health care by virtue of s.92 of the Constitutional Act of 1867. The provinces can do whatever they want with regards to health care. If they don't abide by the Canada Health Act, they don't get money. But they can administer and pay for their own health care system however they want to. It's their constitional right to do so.

The Charter absolutely does not explicitly protect the right for citizens to receive health care by the state in any place in Canada. It probably doesn't implicitly either. On the few cases that have been heard before the Supreme Court that asked if the state had a positive duty to provide a social service, the plaintiff (that's the guy that was asking if the government had to deliver the goods)lost EVERY TIME. Given that health care in AN ENTRENCHED PROVINCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, the federal government doesn't have a legal, nor a moral obligation to deliver state health care to Canadians, judging by the case law. Throughout Canadian history, the court has only allowed the federal government to usurp provincial powers if there was a national emergency or a matter of national concern-called the peace order and good government provision of s.91 of the COnstitional Act of 1867. THe former criteria is very high, like war, the second is also an extremely difficult barrier for the federal government to surmount. It's doubyful the federal government would gain the right, before the Supreme Court, to deliver natioanl health care under the national concern test becuase the provinces are perfectly capable to delivering services to their citizens. It doesn't matter how nice or desireable it would be to have a national health care programme, there has to be a real and pressing concern.

The Charter may, however, depending on the outcome of the Quebec health care case before the supreme court, entitle a citizen to pay for his own health care if he so desires (to 'opt out' of the state health care system).

It's nice that Alberta has so much money that they can afford their own healthcare system.

Paying all that money to profit-making enterprises that have been proven to kill more people than the public system.

Klein keeps winning elections, and he'll win the next one too.

Go figure.


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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

Jim I am trying hard not to hear that, Klein will win next time,(I pray not) of course I didn't think he'd win last time, but just the same if Alberta was so rich as to be able to afford it's own, why will Albertan's be paying for services out of pocket, instead of out of taxes?

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

Ask Ralph. He knows where the money is, and he's willing to give it up for profit.


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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

Albertans already pay for health care, we have had to pay premiums here since the 70's. There is a ground swell building up against King Ralph but he always figures he can buy the election at the last minute with some paltry give away. People are hurting here so there is a good chance to change the government.

I don't live in Alberta, but that is music to my ears.

Down with the King !!

Methinks.


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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

More proof that Alberta is not the happiest place on the planet.

This is a letter to the editor published in the Toronto Star.
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The biggest joke on the uninformed Canadian electorate is that they will be voting for the party the newspapers have started to call the Tories. By hijacking the name Conservative, the Reform/Alliance party is now deemed to be a respected alternative to the Liberal party.

Remember, Brian Mulroney and Ralph Klein endorse this party! Please, Ontario, I'll be wasting my vote again here in Alberta, thanks to this undemocratic electoral system.

Rescue us from the Alberta scourge as represented by the Conservative Party of Canada.


Erik de Regt, Fort McMurray, Alta.

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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

I bet low voter turnout really help's the conservatives in Alberta. You know it would be interesting to know that voter turnout in each province.

Kevin

Well I live in Alberta and I hope you are wrong, I know of several people who have already voted in the advanced polls, two of them are under 23years.

And yes we have been paying about $200.00 every 3 months(Alberta Health Care) for many years, same for one or two, family is a bit more. Many services have been cut as uninsured services, or there is extra billing for test etc. So we are already seeing this Alberta advantage.

I have written several letters to my editor, as he seems to think that the cons is the only way to go and isn't afraid to say so...I keep writing, get the facts people, read the NDP platform if you want to save Canada.

But I did heard a women lamenting the other day, about 'Poor Harper' what is happening to him...I had to leave the table as I wanted to throw up...

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

We need to get rid of all our repulsive Provincial leaders! And Milton what's happening in Alberta to give you that feeling? I need some good news.