The Brown Cloud Of Asia-A Man-Made Degradation Factor Environmentalists Won't A

Posted on Tuesday, April 05 at 12:13 by John Tiller
South Asia puts out more soot from its industrial chimneys than anywhere else on Earth, but even this is dwarfed by the smoke from millions of cooking fires. Research at the Indian Institute of Technology in Bombay has found that more than 40 per cent of the soot in the air comes from cooking, with another 13 per cent from forest fires. It concluded that the warming effect of the soot was 10 times as great as greenhouse gases over the Indian Ocean. Even before this discovery, the cooking fires of the poor were known to be one of the world's gravest environmental hazards. A cocktail of poisonous chemicals swirling in the smoke from dung or wood fires kills 2.2 million people a year - mainly women cooking on them and their children. The United Nations Environment Programme says they are responsible for 5 per cent of the world's disease - more than HIV/Aids - and cost the world economy up to £400-billion a year in lost production through sickness and death. Yet worldwide two billion people have to burn wood and dung because they cannot access or afford modern forms of energy. Soot from the fires is also one of the main causes of the so-called Asian Brown Cloud, a vast pall, two miles thick, that hovers over the south of the continent, reducing the amount of sunlight that reaches the ground by up to 15 per cent. Now the NASA study shows that it may also have global effects. Dr Koch says that the soot has "potentially long-term implications on climate patterns for much of the globe." So as the Greenland ice sheet melts, flooding in the Thames estuary may be caused by the cooking of sparse meals far away in the Indian countryside." Why do today's environmentalists want to wage a very costly fight against pollution based on a controversial scientific model which may be seriously flawed? Many suggest the cost will be crippling, even life-altering. Is CO2 a pollutant or the natural result of carbon-based life on earth? There is growing evidence to suggest that we have misplaced priorities and that people are dying because of it. Surely in terms of dollars in impoverished places, environmentalist blind spots are obscene. India and the other great polluters in the region are not subject to Kyoto. As a result their people suffer first and foremost from the poisons we allow them and also allow our companies like Union Carbide who have relocated there. We don't seem serious about the tragedy in Bhopal if we keep setting up Bhopals again and again. In terms of life and death this failure is close to homicide. The phrase “Kyoto Genocide” may come to describe our negligence concerning the poorest, most suffering people on the Earth. I am ashamed that we squander our resources when the battle seems as simple as life or death for so many of us. [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on April 5, 2005]

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  1. Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:05 pm
    This only goes to show how poverty contributes to environmental degradation. Something all reasonably well read enviros have long known about. As for why enviros prefer to push for Kyoto and not deal with the brown cloud issue? For one thing it is easier to convince the govts. of the developed world to cut CO2 immissions than it is to find a way for India et al to abolish poverty. The former can be done by pressure as a reform, the latter would take a virtual global revolution. There is no conspiracy or bad faith behind the actions of environmentalists, and it is a cruel and dishonest propaganda that attempts to explain these actions (or lack of actions) in this manner. Sometimes it might be ignorance, but generally it is simply a strategic choice of where to put ones limited resources of time and effort. The same could be said of the anti-war movement.

  2. Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:10 pm
    We cannot ignore the other issue here and that is our industrialization is threatening the environment closer to home rather than the north. Both sides of the issue bring home the fact that both the generation of wealth and the existence of poverty is destroying our world. The question is how do we adapt to these combined realities?

  3. Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:51 am
    There is an effort underway by the NWO to get "POOR" Indians, like the women showcased in this article, to dishoard their gold, and get them to purchase things. "things" in the western tradition as told to you by the idiot box. An example would be perhaps gas or electric burners, to send them on their way to slavedom on the grid, control by, cough, youknowwho.

    In short, this article is a sly bit of PR, as is most "NEWS" nowadays.

    The fact of the matter, Indians are very rich...

    Rich because, unlike North Americans, they "SAVE" using real money, gold, in the form of jewellery. They hang ounces of it around their necks, and ankles, and put lots of it in safe places.

    The Pricks in the NWO, Central banks, and the various dirtbags running western governments, plus the lackeys in the Public Relations companies, know they have a huge financial crisis on their hands. the Price of Gold is soon to skyrocket. Unless they can swindle people out of their gold, ie. Indians. These 'POOR' people as some call them (LOL), well, they ain't as poor as you think.

    now, aren't you glad you read vive? learn something new everyday.

  4. Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:49 am
    NASA has it's own pollution problems. There isn't a place on earth that hasn't been polluted by plutonium from their space junk. We're all carrying it in our bodies.

    How many more cars are on the road now than before?

    Teflon has been found in Polar Bears for Chr*** sake. Being clueless about how harmful pollution is is reason enought to STOP polluting.

    When will someone suggest that the Greedy 7 stop ALL pollution and let the poor cook their dinner? How about that? Ya, I didn't think that could be an option.

    ---
    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  5. by avatar Spud
    Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:12 pm
    Right,because if they did,and we didn`t,the scum on top wouldn`t get all the wealth.I mean we might actually figure out how to live instead of accumulate.

  6. Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:11 am
    Why do today's environmentalists want to wage a very costly fight against pollution based on a controversial scientific model which may be seriously flawed? Anyone who doesn’t acknowledge a growing controversy over global warning data and methods needs a pulpit not a blog. Kyoto advocates say it thusly – “what's a few billion $ if we get it wrong – if you get it wrong, everyone is dead.”
    There is growing evidence to suggest that we have misplaced priorities and that PEOPLE ARE DYING PRECISELY BECAUSE WE KEEP GETTING IT WRONG. Surely in terms of dollars in impoverished places, environmentalist blind spots are obscene where money applied correctly can solve a multitude of problems.
    India and the other great polluters in the region are not subject to Kyoto. As a result their people suffer first and foremost from the poison particulates we allow them and companies like Union Carbide which have relocated there to avoid tough environmental regulations at home. This failure looks like homicide if you are part of a poorer nation or consider yourself oppressed. If Bhopal was a single event then Kyoto is an enabling process for a hundred other Bhopals. I am ashamed that we squander our resources when the battle seems as clear as life and death to me. What does Kyoto do except to suck up all available money? It’s probably environmentally cleaner and healthier if we just burned it.
    Getting it wrong is not so cheap either. The United Nations Environment Programme says that cancer and other disease causing particulates are responsible for 5 per cent of the world's disease – MORE THAN HIV / AIDS - and cost the world economy up to £400 billion a year in lost production through sickness and death. This isn't anecdotal. Serious environmentalists must be aware of the statistics. This is the real goods.
    The world got lucky. We didn’t have to do this in a vacuum .China which is not part of Kyoto already has a scheme similar to Kyoto in place. Companies are given a choice. Pay a penalty or install scrubbers and other antipollution devices. Significantly most all pay the penalty and continue to spew exotic new poisons on the rest of the world. What were we thinking when we let this type of logic set our futures for us? The David Suzuki videos about the cute polar bear cubs trying to climb aboard the smallest chunk of ice in the Artic, or the cuddly seal pups with the big dark weepy eyes? Someone or something has stopped us from being rational about Kyoto but now we need to start.

  7. by avatar Spud
    Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:40 pm
    The problem is GREED.Followed by the I AM RIGHT.
    I don`t believe the pollution problems are that difficult to solve.What we lack is the political will to do it.
    As an example,the auto industry knew about and knew how to solve a lot of the problems associated with the internal combustion engine in the years prior to and just after WW1.
    Yet nothing was done until the 60`s-70`s and then only after much screaming.
    I guess the question is why do we continue to dirty our own house?

  8. Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:15 pm
    You have ignored the point I made above that it is far easier to force govts. to sign Kyoto than end poverty. I really think you are out to discredit the enviros more than anything.

  9. by avatar Spud
    Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:21 am
    Agreed.
    What I have such a hard time understanding is we know what the problems are and we know what the solutions are.
    So why the fuck is it so hard to say2+2=4?
    Lets be real,if you have 50 billion dollars you will never really know what that is.So why would want another billion,your wealth fluctuates that much in a given day.
    Spend a billion to solve some problems and then take the wind fall profits from that and reinvest those profits..........
    hey.......
    wouldn`t that be sustainable..............
    nah!



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