NDP Declines CAP Merge; Hellyer Steps Down As Leader Of CAP

Posted on Friday, January 30 at 12:18 by Jim Callaghan
"Both the Liberal Party under Paul Martin and the new Conservative Party, are committed to deeper economic and military integration with the U.S. leading, in my opinion, to ultimate annexation by that country," he added. "So I am still convinced that the new party idea was a good one and I know that the proposal enjoyed wide approval both with some members of the NDP and with progressives and patriots from other parties who felt it would provide them with a new and comfortable home. But it is not to be because the NDP is not willing to give up its name, at least before the election, which was one of the conditions of the CAP proposal," Hellyer explained. "Consequently, in accordance with my commitment to CAP when the merger resolution was unanimously adopted at its Biennial Convention in September, of last year, I am today submitting my resignation as leader of the party and asking the Executive to hold a leadership convention at the earliest possible date. It has been an honour to serve with such a dedicated group of people but the time has come to move on," he concluded. Connie Fogal, CAP's President said: "Paul Hellyer is one of the great Canadian patriots of our time. Anyone who has heard him speak or who has read one of his two latest books, 'Goodbye Canada' or 'One Big Party: To Keep Canada Independent,' will understand the depth of his love for Canada and the passion with which he has fought to maintain its continued existence as a nation state." Paul Hellyer was first elected to the House of Commons 55 years ago this June. He was the youngest MP at the time and the youngest cabinet minister when appointed to Louis St. Laurent¹s government eight years later. He subsequently held senior posts in the governments of Lester B. Pearson and Pierre E. Trudeau, who defeated him for the Liberal Party leadership in 1968. The following year, after achieving the rank of senior minister, which was later designated as Deputy Prime Minister, Hellyer resigned from the Trudeau cabinet because it would not support his recommendations for affordable housing. For further information: Kevin Peck (416) 535-0221 Paul Hellyer (416) 535-4144 Connie Fogal (604) 872-2128

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  1. by sara
    Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:06 pm
    As an NDP member I can tell you that the reason the merger was requested is that the condition of changing the party\'s name cannot be done unilaterally. The NDP has a strong democratic process, and major changes such as the name require a 2/3 majority approval of delegates at a national convention. We have conventions every two years, the last o­ne was in January 2003, the next o­ne will be in 2005. Even if Jack Layton wanted to change the name, he can\'t decide for the entire party. It certainly can\'t be done a few months before an election.

    Even before the CAP proposal, many people in the NDP have been pushing for a name change. The biggest stumbling block has been to find consensus o­n what that name should be. Regardless of this outcome, it is likely that in 2005, the NDP could change its name.

    I am sadenned that Mr. Hellyer will walk away from the talks because of a a few words. What is much more important than the name of the party is its policies, its platform, its leader. Case in point: the various name changes the Reform party has gone through. Name changes are just superficial.

    We hope CAP members will still consider joining the NDP in its journey towards being a strong and effective voice for progressives and nationalists across Canada.

  2. by sara
    Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:11 pm
    Oops. My comment above (the first o­ne) should have read: \"I can tell you that the reason the merger was REJECTED\" (not requested). Sorry.

  3. Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:26 pm
    Perhaps a leadership convention asap, will spark some interest in the CAP, maybe this is not a bad thing? Sure hope we can see the Paul Hellyer and CAP vision followed through, I really like his positions!

  4. Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:02 am
    This is a very sad day I must say. I felt that I would support the NDP in this upcoming election, and if they didn\'t do well I would then focus all my energy into CAP. Actually I was going to put energy into promoting/supporting CAP whether the NDP does well or not.

    However, with this news I feel different about what I should do. I mainly supported CAP cause of the leader behind the party \"Paul Hellyer\". Without him what is that party? If a new leader comes in, will many things change about CAP? Hopefully Paul Hellyer can show some support for a new leader for CAP. At least we can trust a new leader that has Paul Hellyer\'s 100% support. Time will tell.

    I wonder what Paul Hellyer is going to do next?

    Kevin Gagnon

  5. by N Say
    Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:13 am
    DOH! Jim you beat me to it! :p I wonder what people like Hellyer or Orchard will do now! I think the CAP will disappear now since it was basically all Paul Hellyer\'s party.

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    "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school

  6. Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:27 am
    I\'m still waiting to see what the conservatives who were against the Alliance/PC merge will do. It will be interesting to see what they decide to do. Although some of them have shown their frustration that David Orchard has been so quite.

    Some of these PC members want to resurrect the PC party. However, they have ran into some legal problems there. David Orchard needs to do something soon. I wonder if he even realizes that he has people from CAP, NDP who believe in him as a leader of any party that would save Canada. Maybe they can invite David Orchard to the leadership convention and have him as a candidate. That would be interesting.

    If CAP has aprox 27,000 supporters under Hellyer. And you have David Orchard who is not much further behind Paul Hellyer with his passion/vision of Canada has a independent Canada. You would think that David Orchard would be a good fit for CAP. I read many different times that David Orchard alone has around 10,000 supporters. Picture 27,000 CAP members, and around 10,000 David Orchard supporters under one party. Not to mention how many other pro-canada people the party would attract. Would be interesting.

    Kevin Gagnon

  7. Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:37 am
    Sorry, NSAY, I have a two-hour advantage. I am very discouraged about this, but I see the NDP point about name changes and conventions.

    My concern is not just name change, but a shift in NDP policies. If they stay too far to the left, I will never support them.

    They need to move toward the centre and become the only party in Canada that is centre-left.

    We need an alternative to the right-wing, but too far left is not a good option.

    As I said in an email to Jack Layton, I need to know his position on NAFTA, the FTA, the FTAA and GATS, as well as the poverty situation in Canada.

    Until they make some concrete demands on the government, they will not get my support.

    They will not be able to become the opposition party this time around, since the C\'s have more support.

    The NDP have to come out with very clear platforms and attract the average Canadian. Until that day comes, I will spoil my vote. I have no one to vote for that represents my concerns.




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    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca

  8. Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:52 am
    So the future of Canada will have to increasingly hang on a thread, because the NDP can\'t be bothered to change their meeting policies. Right. Maybe they couldn\'t afford the red-eye bus fares to meet more than twice every year.

    Or, maybe they just haven\'t woken up to the fact that their policices are feel-good, flaky nothingness, and their peacenik, treey-hugger image will get them nowhere.

    They do not speak eloquently about Canada, nor do they have any subatnce.

  9. Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:00 am
    Hey N Say, you may knwo this, but Hellyer also started a movement called \"Action Canada\" back in 1971. My uncle apparently helped with stationary, writing letters and so on. I\'m not sure if this was a anctual party, but the issues were similar: wage and price controls, no employment, etc.... although Trudeau hadn\'t formally screwed us over yet, as he did in 1974.

    I guess this won\'t be the first time his idea may disappear from political participation.

  10. Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:06 am
    I`m going to miss Mr. Hellyer. He developed a party that spoke to me. We`re going to miss his savvy and experience. But this does not mean that the CAP is dead. Next leadership convention, let`s see who we can get to lead this party, which still has great potential if we want it! Would Mr. Hurtig accept an invitation? ( Hey, I`ve had bigger wishes before, but right now, this wish ranks up there!)

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    Dave Ruston

  11. Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:03 am
    I was thinking of Hurtig, too. He says he isn\'t in it for a leadership bid, but he is 10 years Hellyer\'s junior, so maybe he can lead, and be followed later by Orchard.....and a name change would help!

  12. Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:48 pm
    It is with profound regret that we have been outed. No hope now in expecting momentum for our respective parties. It is obvious that if there had been any momentum our handlers, the NEO-CAPs and the NEO-NDPs, would have been trashed immediately through word-of-mouth over this damn internet.

    It is unfortunate to us, and our Masters - the military industrial complex, the Banks, and the Zionist sympathisers - that Canadians, and people in genaral all over the world, are discovering the true nature of 20th century democracy, and how the political and economic elites manipulative the process to serve their own ends. We didn\'t want it to come to this, but the writing is on the internet BB, so-to-speak.

    It is now time to enter our bunkers and plot the severest and most damaging World War the world has yet seen. Sorry, but it\'s the only way we can stay on top. Now where did Mr. Silverstein put his blue print for pulling the WTC? man, that was magnificent. It\'s going to be hard to top that, but I\'m sure we can manage.

    sincerely,
    Jack, Mel and Paul

  13. Sun Feb 01, 2004 2:46 am
    To anony above, there are so many Jacks, Mels and Pauls around these days, I am wondering, Jack Granatstein, Paul Martin and Mel(from the old sitcom Alice)? The writing is so hard to put my finger on the author, but the Mel, Jack and Paul I hear about on this site, would never write such a letter, they have never advocated War...course there is also Jack \'be nimble\', and Jack in the Beanstalk, Paul McCartney, Paul Lynd, and Mel Tillis of course!!! So which ones are you?

  14. Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:00 am
    Hello, anonymous friend. Not troll, so much. Simply entertaining and insightful. Keep up the hallucinations.

    They may just come true!



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