Election Call Today!

Let's not forget all the parties and organizations out there who are not considered to be major parties. <p> I noted the set of links to the parties in the "Parties" links includes the "Green Party" and the "Canadian Action Party." The Greens are not and never have been considered a major party, yet they are listed. And the CAP, who the hell are they? </p><p> The <a href="http://www.chp.ca">Christian Heritage Party (http://www.chp.ca)</a> has more members than they do, so why don't you include them on the list. Also, why not the <a href="http:www.agoracosmopolite.com">Cosmopolitian Party (http:www.agoracosmopolite.com)</a>? From what I hear they are capturing quite a following in Ottawa. </p><p> Then there are real fringes. Let's not forget the <a href="http://www.newnationparty.00server.com/index.html">New Nation Party (http://www.newnationparty.00server.com/index.html)</a> part of the American National Socialist Movement. It makes sense that the Nazi's too are controlled by foreign interests, certainly the Liberals, Conservatives and the NDP are. </p><p> Then there is the off beat that I ran into. I don't know if they are affiliated with the New Nation Party or the NSM but here's a website encouraging people to spoil their ballots. Calling themselves the <a href="http://www.geocities.com/canadianNScoaltion">Canadian National Socialist Coalition (http://www.geocities.com/canadiannscoaltion)</a>, if they move forward with their plan it could end up being quite entertaining. </P> If the Green Party can be considered a major party by this website, all of other fringe parties do too.<p>---<br>Canada needs leaders, not more democracy.

fja, how is the NDP controlled by foreign interests? How is spoiling your ballot interesting? Not voting is spoiling your ballot, is that interesting? If you want a list of links for all the Canadian parties websites and much more then go to this site, scroll down to the "political index section" and click on the "index of Canadian political websites" : <p><a href="http://www.blogscanada.ca/egroup/">Blogs Canada</a>

From an article in the Toronto Star (even though I ask myself why I post here as my comments seem to disappear immediately after posting. And I don't use bad language etc.)


".... Voter turnout is the wild card in this campaign. The last election, in 2000, had the lowest voter turnout in history, with just 61 per cent of eligible Canadians casting ballots. The big, preoccupying question this time is whether that number will drop, with young people especially failing to take any interest in politics. All of the parties and even the chief electoral officer, Jean-Pierre Kingsley, have been scrambling to find ways to get young people involved in this election.

The timing also plays against intense voter participation. Though common wisdom says it is unusual for campaigns to take place in summer months, this is actually the 12th time that Canadians have gone to the polls in the summer. Fall elections are only slightly more common, having taken place 13 times since 1867. The rest took place mostly in spring, though there were a few winter elections sprinkled through campaign history.

Martin and his Liberals, for all their talk about wanting to make history and getting the vote out in this campaign, may actually be somewhat ambivalent about a high-octane election. The history of the past few decades shows, in fact, that Liberals tend to win government when turnout is low, while Conservatives have won when turnout is high...."

(The article also includes links to fact sheets of the party leaders)

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... 8793972154

<p>Hello L.Ray, <p>Welcome To Vivelecanada! <blockquote>(even though I ask myself why I post here as my comments seem to disappear immediately after posting. And I don't use bad language etc.)</blockquote> According to your profile you have a total of 18 comments. I'm not sure when your comments have ever been removed. Jesse or Susan may be able to respond to this better then I can cause I'm only a volunteer at this site. Kevin<p>---<br>"Love actually, is all around us" --From the movie Love Actually.

I welcome so many people I end up welcoming people twice. Oh well all the better

Kevin

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"Love actually, is all around us" --From the movie Love Actually.

A website which may be of interest is here:
http://www.electionprediction.org/
It has results of the last 2 elections and predictions for this one

I'm not a right winger. I believe that our social programs require a certain level of taxation. So I agree with Paul Martin when he says we can't have US levels of taxation and Canadian social programs. <p>What gets me incredibly angry though is a man whose company (which he fully controlled, now in the hands of his sons) doesn't pay taxes (or not much) in this country wants to be a LEGITIMATE (he is not yet; we didn't elect him) Prime Minister and makes such statements. It's not just the ship registry in the Barbados (which Martin exempted when he shut down some other tax shelters) but also the hiring of foreign workers who get lower wages and pay no taxes in Canada. <p>He's not the only one doing this and the Conservatives refused to say they would eliminate these tax shelters (they won't) but his election slogan is just so dishonest. <p>But what else is new about the Liberals. Ethics, Paul Martin and the circle of CSL Globe and Mail Feb 4, 2004 <p>"A third controversy arose during a televised encounter last Wednesday. Mr. Martin was asked how CSL could justify paying ridiculously low taxes when small business owners pay tax rates of 40 per cent. Although CSL faces the same rates as other Canadians on taxes it pays in this country, its international affiliates, registered in the tax haven of Barbados, pay almost no tax on their profits. They can then send the money to Canada as tax-free dividends, thanks to tax arrangements confirmed while Mr. Martin was finance minister. (Mr. Martin has argued that at least he shut down Liberia as a tax haven, in 1995. That's when CSL reflagged seven ships from Liberia to Barbados.)" <p><b>Certainly the country was very generous to Mr Martin. (Maybe I should say his liberal buddies were)</b> <p>"Alliance MP James Rajotte asked the Chrétien government for the total amount the federal government had paid in contracts to CSL and Mr. Martin's other companies over the past decade. On Feb. 14, 2003, the government replied that the amount was $137,000. <p>It was a ridiculously low sum, whose inaccuracy has since been attributed to clerical bungling. Anyone familiar with CSL would have known the figure was wrong. Certainly researchers with the Alliance realized something was wrong, and spent months gathering evidence that enabled Alliance MPs to question the sum in the Commons last October. Only then did the government scramble to find a more plausible number, which it announced last month and which, as mentioned above, was $161-million." <p> http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040209/EMARTIN09/TPComment/Editorials <p>A google search turns up lots of 'jewels'. http://www.google.ca/search?as_q=csl+tax+haven&num=10&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images <p><b>Canadians even paid a good part of the capital costs of his ships and when that came to an end he shut down facilities.</b> <p>"...1985 - Federal government subsidies for the shipbuilding industry that had ranged around 20 percent in the 1960s and 1970s come to an end. <p>September 12, 1986 - CSL closes its 43-acre shipbuilding yard in Collingwood, Ontario wiping out 800 jobs and $25 million in local payrolls. .... March 1, 1991 - The federal government changes the tax laws to exempt Canadian-based shipping firms from paying taxes on their international earnings. ...." <p> (An NDP site): http://www.flyourflag.ca/chronology/

Please see next post where I said to Kevin I was wrong.
Sorry about this.

One of the administrators said he would remove these posts for me but he must have forgotten.

I must say I am a little confused because of the way this board orders the posts.
Like the one I'm responding to now: It's the latest in the thread and yet it is somewhere in the middle.
(I know it's because you replied to my post; it's just something I'm not used to. I used to post a lot at a (now defunct) site called the Intellectual Outcast Cafe for a year and a half and that board ordered the messages in chronological order.)
I'll just have to get used to the different way here.

While we're at it would you please tell me how to turn a link into a clickable url?
It's not listed under the 'allowed html tags' and yet it is possible.
Is it url="IP address of site"?
I have posted several links and I would like to make them clickable in the future.

Deleted a couple of posts as requested.

As for links, you would choose "HTML formatted" from the Post mode dropdown, and use <a href="http://url.goes.here">text_label</a> as the tag. Actual HTML instead of BBcode, I know it's kind of unusual.

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Jesse

thank you

er, ignore what I just said about links, especially since it appears to have showed up kinda weird. Just type them in like you were doing; I just added code to make them show up as links automatically.

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Jesse

OK
Thanks