George Orwell's 1984 Is Here--Not That It Wasn't Already

One word: wow!

"The beauty of the chip, Mr. Silverman told journalists and investment analysts, is that it has multiple applications. "

I bet it does!



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"Fight every fight like you can win;
An iron fisted champion,
An iron willed f___ up."

Funny thing... I read in that tabloid The Province that these things are already being implanted into people in Europe. For medical purposes? No, it's in clubs, so that it's easier to keep a tab!!! No kiddin!

-KY

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Kory Yamashita

"What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

He's right. And RFID chips have gotten FDA approval to be implanted in humans in the US. Why am I reciting passages from Revelations in my mind???


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... table_chip



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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

I think also the latest Canadian passport recently approved will incorporate data. These technologies are certainly becoming pervasive and will make tracking people a whole lot easier. GPS on your mobile is an other pretty scary one.

I am not sure how People are supposed to fight this back other than going underground. Has anyone seen Robert Deniro, the "underground plumber", in this movie called Brasil?

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"We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

This has to be related to the Alberta Health Care debacle.

Ralph Klein likely wants to get Humana's foot in the door either through a Mondex/MasterCard/Medical Savings Account program administered by Humana (Private health provider in the US) OR by a P3 (public-private partnership) Hospital such as the one that went up in Quebec recently. MasterCard already supplies every Federal Department with purchasing cards - who's to say they wouldn't get the contract for administering Medical Savings Accounts?

Ah, but the cards can go missing, and are still susceptible to Identity theft and abuse by "terrorists". Therefore, the next phase in this program is the implantable RFID.

The Big 4 Banks are all into Mondex and would love to see a cashless economy as means of total control over the "life energy" of Canadians - elimination of the underground economy that would categorically boost GDP as previously unaccounted activities suddenly show up in the national accounts, thereby masquerading any sudden decline in GDP.

Governments all over the world have millions of these RFID chips ready to go should the global financial architecture collapse. IF they are for implantation, any attempt at removal will likely leak lithium into your bloodstream (along with a host of nano-particles or bacteria) and the GPS will tell the authorities where to find you in the "underground".

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5420.html
Motorola just announced that it has a new RFID chip - first in the phone, and then it'll be in the hand folks.

My dogs have chips. I am not a dog. I don't want a chip or a card containing biometric data...not to run a bar tab, not to keep track of my medical records, not to prove that I am a Canadian or that I'm not a terrorist.

This is the ultimate invasion of privacy.

The underground economy is bigger than you know.

Why do you think the welfare rates and disability pensions are so low ?

They know people are cheating. They know because everyone cheats, on their taxes, on their income, etc.

I have people I know personally that are doing much better than I because they are working full time while collecting benefits, and if I were to turn them in, I wouldn't have any friends left.

Diabetics cheat. What more can I say ?

I have dicussed this with seniors much older than I, and their first comment is "I've paid enough taxes, from now on I pay CASH."

If they are willing to pay cash, there are many out there who will take it.

Face it, this amounts to millions of dollars NOT being paid in taxes, and the government is well aware of this.

They even threatened to do audits, and look at your home, cars, bank accounts, etc., and if you showed income of $15K per year and have 2 vehicles, live in a $100K home, with all the toys, then they will be all over you.

I paid taxes all my life, and if I was still working, I would still pay taxes, because that is what is going to support the country and myself in my old age.

Implants are a little over the top, but somehow this must be controlled.

Perhaps if we turned in everyone we know is cheating, they would not need to go the "chip" route.

Think about it. Everyone that works for cash is part of the problem.


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"Most politicians 'can't hold a job anywhere else...I mean, you're not dealing with top-drawer individuals.'" - Jeff Lyons, Toronto lobbyist.

Yeah Jim, I just think that taxes are a way to transfer wealth to the top of the pyramid, at least at present. I wouldn't be surprised if most of our hard-earned income tax is used to control the laymen, and make the wealthy more powerful......taxes can be good--but the wrong people pay most of the taxes.

The anti-tax nuts have it all wrong--their taxes are high not because government is evil, but because the richest corporations and individuals pay no tax.

In North America the natural role of the male as the governor of the domestic or household establishment has been invaded by the State. The legal pretext for this statutory invasion is the legal equality of male and female and "the legal supremacy of the secular state". You may conceive this legislation will endure without destroying the family institution. I do not and I have some documented trends for my opinion. The experiment with women's equality and State tyranny over the family has already played out in the soviet union. The utopian experiment of multicultualism is destroying the society here as surely as the experiment of communism did in Russia. Reference the speeches of Vaclav Havel for more information.

Yeah, umm... what? Multiculturalism isn't an experiment that can fail. In Canada we will keep working on it until we get it right. And we have to so that we can provide a model for the rest of the world, to teach them how to get along. Because if we don't, we'll blow ourselves up soon.

And about that chip... bad idea. What kind of evil SOB's come up with these kinds of ideas?

-KY

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Kory Yamashita

"What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

kory, no difference between the soviet union and north america today, except we've got 'controlled capitalism' and a convincing propaganda machine (radio, newspapers and television)

I see you've fallen for the Orwellian 'groupthink' regarding multi-culturalism. The propaganda says anyone against multi-culturalism is a racist, but this is not so. What you fail to understand is many difference races have migrated to North America fully determined to keep their language and culture. This is ok with the government. What the government wants is immigrants willing to Borrow money, and keep the fiat currency wheel spinning.. more inflation, deflation and pauperizing the sheep.

The purpose of multi-culturalism is, for the most part, to soften up the native born canadian to allow the raiding of his social capital, to enrich the banks, and the top tier elitists

ps : take a look at the zionist entity. Any multi-culturalism in isRael? of course not. And look how much these people control, and their wealth.... see first paragraph.

People just have to resist the chip! Don`t give in! Simple! But people seem all too willing to give up their freedom! And, if we`re going to turn in the 'cheaters', then let`s go after the biggest! The ones like Jane Stewart, who 'lost' a billion dollars! Don`t blame a little guy, simply because they can`t make ends meet! Go after, the Enron idiots! Go after Mulroney! Conrad Black! After all, ultra- rich, are that way, by being slave driving criminals! And anon, are you saying that only a homogeneous society can work? There`s no such thing, even in Israel! In Israel, you have European Jews, Middle eastern Jews, Jews from other parts of the world, christians, and Palestinians. But of course, Israel is an apartheid state! As for Canada, we were ALWAYS multi-cultural, from the beginning, and we used to stick together, to build a better society. But now, the capitalist powers that be, merely use this to divide and conquer, and put forth entertainment and indoctrination that promotes mercenary attitudes. The poison in today`s culture is the 'stab your neighbour in the back to get ahead' mentality. Or, 'if I kiss your ass enough, can I have some too?' Or, when we see someone else get screwed, the thought of, 'as long as it`s not me.' But it could be you!

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Dave Ruston

Anon, the fact that our economic system favours the rich has nothing at all to do with multiculturalism.

And I think we've already covered the immigration topic fairly well in the Forum. You seem to be assuming that immigrants are coming here and leeching off "native-born Canadians". This is not so. We have strict immigration policies and those who are allowed into our country tend to do MORE positive work than your average "native-born Canadian".

Speaking of "native-born Canadians", have you thought about the fact that any immigrant can have a child who then becomes one of these "native-born Canadians"? Where do YOU get off deciding who is a true Canadian and who is not? Is it the aboriginals from whom the Europeans stole the land and against whom the European colonialists committed genocide? Or did you conveniently forget that so that you could justify the ownership of this country by yourself?

Do you really have a problem with immigrants? People are quick to lay the blame on immigrants, but many forget that one source of our national pride is the railroad built with the blood of the Chinese.

And if you look at other major projects, you will find that most were built primarily by whichever race happened to have a mass exodus in their home country around the time of the project here. Stop whining about immigrants. It was immigrants who built this country from the ground up. And to suddenly cut off the flow because the immigrants who have already immigrated are too greedy to share with other hard-working individuals is ridiculous. By cutting off the immigration flow, we would be isolating ourselves from a very beneficial resource - hard-working immigrants.

Now, back to the topic of multiculturalism - give me one reason that there is something wrong with my mother being white (Danish) and my father being Asian (Japanese). Does this make me less of a person? And if so, why?

-KY

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Kory Yamashita

"What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

"By cutting off the immigration flow, we would be isolating ourselves from a very beneficial resource - hard-working immigrants. "

Not to mention taxpayers.

I'll certainly agree that there are some problems with immigrants in this country (What in life does not come with some negetives?). But to say that immigration is not working is pure folly. Immigration/ immigrants are the backbone of our country.

Gord