Visible Majority By 2017

So?

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If you don't like these ideas, I've got others. --Marshall McLuhan

So . . .perhaps we should get the rules changed so the cab driver with 3 university degrees can contribute to Canada what he's good at.


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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

It was approved so people could voice their opinion presumably. What's your opinion? Is multilculturalism a problem, considering we never voted for it and the polls were soundly against it?

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

I'd rather have a new economic system that allows established Canadians to contribute to Canada in areas they are good at. Rather than serving tables.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

Well, what is it Perturbed?

Are the immigrants taking all the good jobs, or are they blocked from the good jobs so they drive cabs?

White Canadians are certainly not being displaced from the professions by visible minorities.

You should be clearer also on your definitions. Is an "established Canadian" a Canadian-born person with white skin? Or would someone belonging to a visible minority born in Canada be considered an "established Canadian"?

You should also clarify if it is the official policy of multiculturalism you take issue with, or instead you are against non-white immigration. These are two different things.

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If you don't like these ideas, I've got others. --Marshall McLuhan

I don't think an established Canadian has to have white skin, but I think that they do more often than not.

I was trying to make the point that I live in Toronto, and I have friends and family who have had zero luck finding jobs in academia, manufacturing, etc. and they were not "immigrants driving cabs" they were people whose families have been in Canada for many, many decades or even centuries. Our neo-liberal economic system affects everyone.

As for immigrants driving cabs, obviously people who are non-white have a harder time breaking into established professions. I, however, see this more as culture than as hidden racism. These people shouldn't be coming here in the first place. There never was a shortage of workers. That's a myth. Every profession cries that myth to drive wages down. We don't need foreign engineers or doctors. What we need are tradesmen.

There is 7% unemployment, but that figure is much higher in many areas. Why are we bringing in well-educated immigratns when people here can't find work? It's silly, but it obviously works for someone in power.

As for needing the children or jobs--give us something to live for. Immigrant entrepreneurs don't create that many jobs for strangers--mostly themselves and close friends and family at their store [who often work for free] so the idea immgration stimulates anything is also a bit far-fetched.



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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

To answer the second part of your question, it is primarily the policy of official multiculturalism that I have a big issue with. There was a commission, but of course the polls were against it. People didn't support it. People liked Canada in the 1950s. It was wonderful.

I'm sick of being told by people, many of them whites affected by "white guilt" that Canadian policy is eurocentric [wonder why?] we committed genocide against the natives, white people were imperialists and the other B.S. white people have to live with in the world's most soulless city.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

It would be a good thing for Canada I feel if it were to become a bit more diverse as America has become. Then we could have a little more of a universal/global influence within our society which might pry us out of our protectionist shell and propagate more understanding of other people in the world and less hatred of those unlike ourselves. Let's face it. At the moment we are as rabidly anti everything and everybody that a person NOT behind the wheel of a car bomb or something can possibly get. We need an infusion of less biased, prejudiced, and intelligent thought. We need more tolerant people. There is no reason that Canada has to remain a French or British colony constantly slitting it's wrists and whining over every little thing is there? It's about time Canada's old, tired, bitter, anal, hateful, unremarkable, lilly white roots got an infusion of some much needed colour (even if it's non-european white - still something different)!!! That infusion helped move America forward out of it's stagnant past and it might just help us out of the social/cultural hole we are in as well. We shouldn't seal off our border to others as we did to the Jewish men, women, and children during the holocaust as they attempted to escape the slaughter. Hopefully we've progressed some since then. I for one like the people that have been coming in. Here in Ottawa I see a lot of them and they are TEN TIMES more considerate, peaceful, and thoughtful as any of the so-called "traditional" Canadians around here I've met. They most certainly have better manners! They just have to be taught by those "traditional Canadians" how to hate everyone else in the world in order to fit in here...and for heaven's sake...especially those American...what is it we call them here on this site? neocanazitrolls??? neocontrollingnazis??? americnazineotrolladians??...crap...go figure..can't ever seem to get it right...you, know...those strangers that are different from us that we don't like (oops, sorry...I mean hate...didn't want to offend anybody). Bring 'em on...bring 'em in...like, 'em, love 'em, want more of 'em!!!

(disclaimer: use of "traditional" above solely in reference to the French/British Canadien contrived definition/use of the term)

Of course to pay homage to those who really "belong" here...we must remember that "traditional" is actually generation dependent...years ago there was no such thing as an "American", or "Canadian", or "Mexican"...those terms are creations of French, English, and Spanish Imperialists. The entire continent is currently inhabited by "non-traditional" people when you think about it...the REAL traditional people being the originals...so who is to say that the latest group(s) to arrive have any less right here or more right here than any other? I have a special place in my heart for my brothers on the Fort Hall reservation in Idaho (oh, yeah...sorry...you people here hate them too for being located south of the 49th?)...the Shoshone and the Bannock...they welcomed me and my family...taught me their ways. Made us feel as though we were as important as anyone else. (for some strange reason they don't like/dislike anyone based upon which side of the 49th parallel they fell on at birth...historically they didn't even know it existed until white europeans "invented" the damned thing. I want to do for others as they did for me during my time there...and welcome any others who wish to come to my home (this continent) in peace, and as a brother. It'd be so cool if we all could be as tolerant and understanding as they were. Food for thought. Let's welcome our new friends. Can we do it gang? I have faith we can.

I think this post proves my point quite well. Ship them in, regardless of the consequences.

Never mind the fact that the most humane and forgiving societies on Earth are European societies.

No wonder foreigners are so polite. They come from countries that will cut off your arm if you step out of line. We don't do that here. We give 2nd and 3rd chances. Then we give them jail with all the necessities of life.

As for anon's crap about Europeans being imperialists--not in the northern half of North America. Up here we just built a society with determination and hard work. No scalping of natives up here. Come back next time.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

I'm sorry to hear that you feel as deeply hateful as you do. What are your roots if I might be so bold as to ask? And how did your ancestors come to be here? Did someone who felt as you do about newcomers greet them upon their arrival with a deportation order? I am not angry with you, but wish to be of some assistance to you in softening your heart towards others if possible. Did you perhaps suffer some injustice at the hands of an immigrant to our continent? I am trying to understand the level of hate eminating from your messages. I am not trying to insult you or be derogatory in any way. Please don't be offended. I intend no harm. Can you help me understand why you feel as you do?

It is not white guilt. It is the colonial attitude of entitlement that "some" white people have, and think "others" should not. Perhaps the word remorse is better than guilt for the feeling that yes our forefathers stole Indian land and I want to do something about it.
And yes multiculturalism is scary if you have to learn to talk to all those immigrants.
Great post --the anon before me.

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rhondda

I've already explained countless times why I oppose official multilculturalism on this site. Among those reasons is people assimilate anyway, and it creates an underclass while displacing native European populations.

I'll tell you more when you stop calling me "racist" and "hateful" for exercising my legal right to freedom of speech.

When people play the race card, you know you've probably won your argument.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

I have to call you on your B.S. Rhonda. It is white guilt.

White people didn't "steal" anything. They settled this land. Before they settled it, it was brush. They lived and died settling this land just like the natives. They had a lot in common with the natives. Both worked hard and died tough deaths. The natives were not everywhere--it is a big country. Native people were not as adaptable, and not as advanced technologically.

Today, they live in European houses on reserves and show no inclination to going back. History is not against anyone, it just is. Grow up, be an adult and accept it. Giving them self-government won't change the past.


As for multiculturalism, its scary that our white, liberal elites are doing this, as usual, against the will of the majority.

Before any more white people who feel guilty give me a hard time, perhaps they should read some poll results from the last 40 years, which show that I acutally speak for the silent majority who aren't pleased at all.

We have no obligation to subsidize our own displacement.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

native european populations occur naturally in europe don't they? I don't believe I noticed the anon above refer to you as a racist. Maybe I should look again. I saw the hateful part right away however. It does make one wonder what event happened to make you feel as you do. I don't think anyone needs to deprecate themselves to make up for lost time trying to undo something someone else before them did. What's done is done. I doubt the native people want your sympathy (or anything else) any more than they want your guilt. I think they want what the newcomers probably want...equal treatment. No handouts necessary. They have their pride too. Why so bitter? I think he/she was just trying to understand where you were coming from. Was it the reference to something/someone American? Jewish? I'd like to think that we in Canada aren't THAT small...think about it...I didn't see where that person insulted any particular group or even individual. Probably just as confused as I am. I'm not French (or even British), and so maybe I can't relate...are you of French heritage by chance? Is that it? I don't think people in France hate that way...or do they? I don't know...forget it...thinking out loud now and not doing anybody any good. I just don't get it. Call me stupid.