Clueless Ambrose

I think Canada should be taxed for not complying or at least trying to meet our targets. And I think we should be taxed on any imports that we purchase from countries that are also heavy polluters or are not signed on to Kyoto, i.e. China and the USA.

I also think that Rona Ambrose can only be accused of being ignorant and maybe stupid, I don't know that for sure, and that is for being a patsy for Harper's ideology and taking the bullets he should be taking. But we all know that Harper is not capable of fighting, he's only capable of ordering others to fight for him.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

I don't understand why everyone blames Minister Ambrose. Granted, she's just there for the eyecandy factor. But the Liberals were the ones who signed onto Kyoto, and did not a damn thing to get a plan together to implement it. For 10 years the Liberals hummed and hawwwed.

Now, a plan has been on the table for 2 months, and she's only been environment minister for 6 months - but it's all her fault?

I totally agree the Canada is an environmental laggard. But let's give credit where credit is due.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

What's the plan? Maybe I can be a bit more objective because I'm immune to Rona as candy eye or otherwise.
Did you watch The Fifth Estate and notice how USAed their plan is? And they have no plan just words that sound like a plan to someone that isn't really paying attention.

And to give credit where credit is due the Liberals DID have some things started and going. How big a difference anything made I have no idea but there cannot be accused of doing NOTHING! That is just a Conservative blabberdy blabberdy response and I thought you had outgrown those DC.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

"I don't understand why everyone blames Minister Ambrose."

She flies half way around the world with the intention of discussing a very pressing concern to humanity and the best she could do is pass the buck backwards and blame the Liberals. Gee, I can't understand why this poor Alberta girl is taking so much criticism.

She'd get a bit more respect from people if she just stated the truth - she has to kiss the oil and energy companies asses by permitting them to continue destroying the planet and raking in the cash. If only these people cared as much about their children (if they have any, that is) as they do about the bottom line.

It's official - the Cons are completely incompetent across the board on all issues of importance. Time to stick a fork in them. Harper's grand plan of muzzling his supporting cast of dubious characters seems to be backfiring.

People want to see dynamic politicians with new ideas and plans to get this country back on the right track. What they have now is a bunch of mindless one dimensional drones who have no personality, are unable to think for themselves and obediently follow their master's orders.

Maybe it is time to throw Iggy into the fire and see how long before he crashes and burns. If we have to sacrifice a couple of more old fart democracy destroying out of touch politicians to get to some fresh new blood in this country, so be it. It's time for these greedy corrupt baby boomers to ride off into the sunset, never to be heard from again.

"blabberdy blabberdy response"? Please. We aren't in Kindergarden 4C. Because you don't like the answer, don't patronize me. Tell me what the Liberals plan was instead. But wait!

The Liberals had absolutely no plan to meet our phase one Kyoto goals (by 2012) and the Conservatives aren't much better, meeting Phase 2 goals by 2050. At least the Conservatives have some sort of plan, albeit piss poor and too late. You might call it a 'canned standard Conservative lovers answer', but it's the truth. I don't know why you wouldn't call me a 'Green Lover' because it's the same answer any memeber of the Green Party would give.

But here's what most people don't want to hear: if every Canadian industry, and every greenhouse gas causing device in Canada suddenly stopped producing their noxious emissions - what effect would it have on the planet as a whole?

Zip. None.

Inside a couple years, China's ramped up industrialization would overshadow all Canadian pollution combined. Should we do nothing to clean up our environment? No. Should we do it just to please the rest of the world? No.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

"Because you don't like the answer, don't patronize me. Tell me what the Liberals plan was instead."<br />
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<a href="http://www.energyprobe.org/EnergyProbe/index.cfm?DSP=content&ContentID=12875">http://www.energyprobe.org/EnergyProbe/index.cfm?DSP=content&ContentID=12875</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.sierraclub.ca/national/kyoto/executive-summary-2004.html">http://www.sierraclub.ca/national/kyoto/executive-summary-2004.html</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kyoto/timeline.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kyoto/timeline.html</a><br />
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And I am not trying to defend the lousy Liberal's not making laws requiring industry to reduce emissions as opposed to "voluntary" compliance but, lets face it there is nothing really to be "fair" about with regards to the way either of these governments will handle the future of the planet.<br />
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Rona Ambrose is attractive to look at but even I do not believe that is why she's in that position. And when you referred to Rona as eye candy you set the tone for our conversation. And in my circle of conversation "blabberdy, blabberdy" is another way of saying blah blah blah and in no way indicates a kindergarten conversation but rather a script that has become tiresome and without substance.<br />
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"You might call it a 'canned standard Conservative lovers answer', but it's the truth. I don't know why you wouldn't call me a 'Green Lover' because it's the same answer any memeber of the Green Party would give."<br />
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Sorry but that part just confuses me, I don't understand what you are trying to explain.<br />
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"But here's what most people don't want to hear: if every Canadian industry, and every greenhouse gas causing device in Canada suddenly stopped producing their noxious emissions - what effect would it have on the planet as a whole?<br />
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Zip. None."<br />
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I do not believe that. Everything has an effect no matter how small. Not just a physical effect either. Composting vegetable wastes from my home and garden has made a diffence in our landfills and I know it has made a diffence in my garden.<br />
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"Inside a couple years, China's ramped up industrialization would overshadow all Canadian pollution combined. Should we do nothing to clean up our environment? No. Should we do it just to please the rest of the world? No."<br />
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If all Kyoto signatories quite buying from China that problem would be solvable very quickly and Canada could stop exporting resources to them. I'm glad you still think we should do something in any case but am surprised you think that our sticking to our commitment to Kyoto would be just to please the rest of the world? Now that sounds more like kindergarten.<br />
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<p>---<br>"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche<br />