Canada Wins Another Round In Softwood Battle With U.S.

ok... now when will we have someone in the government finally tell us that NAFTA isn't working for us.

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"George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

I guess the softwood "Dispute" is over. Yeh Right! Harper is to busy convincing us we need a war in Afghanistan and Bush to busy convincing the world that we need a war in Iran. Harper hasn't talked softwood with Bush yet and that was what he was "harping" about with Martin.

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here is the thing with courts and judgements
the lawyers and the judges get paid
and the plaintiff gets screwed

Hmmm?



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how many big victories do we need to get them to honour the agreement we made under NAFTA.

time to withdraw from the agreement,we have to remember it's more than just canada and the usa,there is mexico and now another south american agreement that could be affected with our withdrawl.the agreement of the americas...

No one is in a hurry to "settle" the SLD, or it would have been settled years ago. A little preliminary number crunching will show that the wages and salaries the companies saved by closing mills, etc. and shipping the logs direct to States, just about paid for the tariffs imposed. So the all-important shareholders, thanks to the greatly increased demand for lumber, are not suffering one iota. It's only the former forestry workers who are............

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RickW

time to withdraw from the agreement<<

The probability in your lifetime is NIL. To much money is being made in NAFTA. We blame the bad yanks, yet our own country endorces it. Only if the Americans wished to rename it, NAFTA will be forever. How long ago had the world decided that the Metric system would be used? How soon will the USA convert to that system? Daylight savings was always applied within specific dates and yet Bush will change that for the world. NATO was an independent "Treaty Organization" and now the Americans have put their own in charge of it.
Business as usual and the Americans will forever run the show. Canada will and always had, catered to American business. Mulroney only made it visable to the public eyes. The name may change to protect the guilty but the arrangement under NAFTA will remain. Harper may draw up a new agreement to echo NAFTA but only to hide the same agreement from the public. He may even charge BC Liberal fees for the "freedom of information".

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>>thanks to the greatly increased demand for lumber, are not suffering one iota<

The demand is for "logs" not lumber. There are big saw mills in the US to rid Canadas own. With no requirement to process those logs localy, the logging companies are not burdened with the obligation. Logging companies have it made.

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<p>boflaade,</p> <blockquote>How long ago had the world decided that the Metric system would be used? How soon will the USA convert to that system?</blockquote> <p>“the world” as a whole never decided to use the metric system; individual nations have decided to use it over a period of two centuries. In my nation’s case, it has been lawful to use metric units since the Metric Act of 1866 was passed. The USA was an original signatory of the Convention du Mètre in 1875. Our weights and measures have been defined in terms of metric units since the Mendenhall Order of 1893, with length finally achieving a common definition throughout the anglosphere in 1959.</p> <blockquote>Daylight savings was always applied within specific dates and yet Bush will change that for the world.</blockquote> <p>Daylight savings time has changed multiple times over the decades, with different locations having different start times, end times, and timeshifts. Australia is changing its own rules just for this year to accommodate its hosting of the Commonwealth Games. Bush hardly has <i>carte blanche</i> over daylight savings time legislation in the several provincial parliaments.</p> <blockquote>Business as usual and the Americans will forever run the show.</blockquote> <p>History suggests otherwise. I can only quote George Harrison:</p> <blockquote><i>Now the darkness only stays the nighttime</i><br> <i>In the morning it will fade away</i><br> <i>Daylight is good at arriving at the right time</i><br> <i>It’s not always going to be this grey</i><br> <i>All things must pass</i><br> <i>All things must pass away</i></blockquote><p>---<br>Shatter your ideals upon the rock of Truth.<br />
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America’s National Security Strategy 2006<br />
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>>While most of the world affirms in principle the appeal of economic liberty, in practice too many nations hold fast to the false comforts of subsidies and trade barriers. Such distortions of the market stifle growth in developed countries, and slow the escape from poverty in developing countries. Against these short-sighted impulses, the United States promotes the enduring vision of a global economy that welcomes all participants and encourages the voluntary exchange of goods and services based on mutual benefit, not favoritism.<<<br />
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>>In our own hemisphere, we will advance the vision of a free trade area of the Americas by building on North American Free Trade Agreement, CAFTA-DR, and the FTA with Chile. We will complete and bring into force FTAs with Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, and Panama.<<<br />
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Sorry! I meant the greatly increased demand for lumber in the STATES. It is being filled by VERY LARGE MILLS, in the States, which use raw logs from Canada.<br />
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<a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060317142138172">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060317142138172</a><p>---<br>RickW

Daylight savings time has changed multiple times over the decades<

Your right but Canada will follow the US to maintain uninterupted business connections.

The Metric system is almost global and only few countries have not adapted to it. The American system is not global and surprisingly held on to.

My point is that the US will do what they feel like and Canada will cater to it. I'm surprised we didn't drop the imperial measure to adopt the American standard.

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Isn't the only Lumber Companies left in BC owned by companies down in the US? Including Abitibi-Consolidated, Weyerhaeuser, Tembec, Slocan, Canfor and West Fraser.

The SWLD became a problem in 1982 when the U.S. lumber industry petitioned the Department of Commerce and the NAFTA agreement was promoted as the great fix because the US got almost all of what it wanted in the agreement as well as it gave both parties a mechanism to resolve grievances with out having to go the WTO which the US was loosing every disput at.

One more thing; the great Consevative hope Wilson was the one person involved in NAFTA from the begining and the bigest promoter since day one.

Lets take a moment to remember; Wilson promised to balance the budget but ran large deficits throughout his tenure as finance minister and put the Canadian economy into recession 2 years earlier then the US. Canadians have yet to pay that mistake off. He reformed the tax system to broaden the tax base and lower tax rates, removing many special tax provisions to help Corparate Canada's elite and helped negotiate the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement. Wilson also introduced the unpopular Goods and Services Tax in 1990 which led him to being one of the highest profile members of an unpopular government but loved by Canada's Business elite whom promoted him as Canada's economic saver.

What I don't understand is that Canada voted Harper in but we have Brian Mulroney, the most hated Canadian Prime Minister in Canadian history advising him on how to run the country?

Democracy is a beautiful thing! Gotta love it!

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Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.

(Looks like some companies are looking elsewhere to sell our softwood)<br />
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Canada's largest wood exporter to target the fast growing Middle East wood market at Dubai Woodshow 2006<br />
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Canada's largest wood exporters, SPF Precut Lumber, is gearing up to showcase its range of precut pallet stock and dog ear fencing at the upcoming Dubai Woodshow 2006, augmenting the stellar line-up of international companies from the wood and woodworking industry who have confirmed participation at the three-day exhibition, to be held at the Dubai World Trade Centre from April 10-12, 2006.<br />
United Arab Emirates: Sunday, March 26 - 2006 at 11:27 GMT+4 <br />
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Global wood industry giants seek to tap fast-growing Middle East market through participation in Dubai Woodshow 2006<br />
Dubai Woodshow 2006 to serve as a platform for region's wood industry<br />
WOODSHOW 2006 to feature leading regional and international exhibitors<br />
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SPF Precut Lumber is Canada's leading manufacturer and exporter of kiln-dried and heat-treated Canadian softwood. They are presently Western Canada's largest exporters of pallet stock to USA, shipping about 45 million BFT of pallet stock per year, and are seeking to establish a foothold in the fast-growing Middle East market by leveraging the excellent networking opportunity offered by Dubai Woodshow 2006. SPF Precut Lumber's products are targeted mainly at pallet manufacturers in the Middle East and buyers of Canadian lumber. <br />
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Dubai Woodshow 2006 is the dedicated wood and wood machinery exhibition in the Middle East and will feature leading exhibitors from more than 40 countries. Being held for the first time, the exhibition provides an excellent platform for regional and international companies to showcase their latest wood machinery and woodworking products to business prospects and build strategic relationships with buyers, traders and investors. <br />
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'In Dubai Woodshow, the Middle East region will have for the first time a comprehensive industry forum that brings together leading players from the entire spectrum of the wood and woodworking machinery industry. Also, the show is timed just right, coming against the backdrop of a sharp rise in demand for wood and wood products in the region,' said Dawood Al Shezawi, Managing Director of Strategic Marketing & Exhibitions, the organizers of Dubai Woodshow 2006. <br />
<a href="http://www.ameinfo.com/81424.html">http://www.ameinfo.com/81424.html</a><br />
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