Libby Davies Raises Maher Arar Issue In The House

Posted on Wednesday, June 08 at 19:23 by sthompson
Hon. Anne McLellan (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, as we have said before in the House, we do not comment on the daily testimony that is being put into evidence before a public inquiry. Regarding the Arar inquiry, Mr. Justice O'Connor was put in place to determine the facts around the conduct of Canadian officials in relation to Mr. Arar's deportation to Syria and his treatment while in Syria. That is his mandate. He is independent. We in the House do not comment on daily testimony. Ms. Libby Davies (Vancouver East, NDP): Mr. Speaker, my question was for the Minister who gave his own testimony. Surely he is able to comment on what he said and take responsibility for it. The question is, how could he not have known about Syria's appalling record about torture? To fall back on the idea that somehow his staff did not tell him is a total cop-out. I ask the Minister again, how could he not have known what might happen to a Canadian citizen deported to Syria and that he would face the risk of torture? Surely the minister can account for and be responsible for and have the government be responsible for the travesty of this affair concerning Maher Arar. Hon. Bill Graham (Minister of National Defence, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I have no intention of commenting on the evidence before the Arar inquiry. However, I have to tell the Members of the House that I resent very much the allegations regarding members of our civil service. They worked their hearts out to do their best for Mr. Arar. They work around the clock in very difficult circumstances, and are doing their best for the people of Canada. They gave me the best advice they could, and we worked as hard as we could to get Mr. Arar released. Believe me, I think we can be proud of the actions of our civil servants. We can recognize that we might have done better and we can learn from our mistakes, and we will from the inquiry, but let us not denigrate the work that was done which successfully got Mr. Arar out. Feel free to drop me a line (remember it's postage free) Or email me at: daviel@parl.gc.ca 483 West Block House of Commons Ottawa, ON, K1A 0A6 Ph. (613) 992-6030 Fax (613) 995-7412 2412 Main Street Vancouver, BC V5T 3E2=20 Ph. (604) 775-5800=20 Fax (604) 775-5811 www.libbydavies.ca CEP 232 [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on June 11, 2005]

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  1. Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:58 am
    'However, I have to tell the Members of the House that I resent very much the allegations regarding members of our civil service. They worked their hearts out to do their best for Mr. Arar.'

    Really? They worked their hearts out? If this is the best we can do for Canadian citizens, we are in big trouble, every one of us! Is it the members of the Civil service who are in question here? I thought it was the Defence minister, I highly doubt the members of civil service made the decision to allow Arar's deportation to Syria? Is this the new politically correct way to pass the buck? Maybe I am wrong here, but I think the buck stops with Graham and the PM!

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  2. Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:11 pm
    Of course, we are being forced to live in a so called "market economy", where the demands of the highest bidder overrule everything. It has been revealed in the past few weeks that the US government is routinely paying for the delivery of people into captivity in Afghanistan and Iraq, creating a lucrative market for human flesh.

    In a market economy everything, including human beings and lives, become "commodities". We don't know and probably never will know what market pressures are being put on the Canadian government to submit to the demands of the self appointed Masters of the Universe. When legislators are expected to vote for laws they are not permitted to read, when people are being arrested and held for years without charges, when habeas corpus becomes a worthless concept for the so called reasons of "national security", anything goes and we, the good satellites, must follow orders. Anybody can be arrested and made to disappear without charges, on the whim of some new commissars. This is called "democracy" in our age, just as the Soviet satellites were called "People's democracies", where people had no rights, or say. Hitler's armies were also fighting for "Freedom, Christianity and Western Civilization", with "Gott Mit Uns" on their beltbuckles.

    Even here in Canada, officials and politicians now simply refuse to answer questions on account of this newly invented, phoney claim of "national security". People are jailed, but even they're not permitted to know for what reason ? Arrar was sent to Syria, obviously with Canadian collaboration, but we need a billion dollar inquiry to establish the fact that neither he, or the public will ever find out why, because that would hurt "national security" ?

    But then, in a market economy the highest bidder calls the shots and we all become commodities to be bought and sold at will, not even permitted to know who our new owners are? Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  3. Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:12 pm
    > we all become commodities to be bought and sold at will, not even permitted to know who our new owners are? <br />
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    Start learning Chinese, Ed - The new owners of your resource base are Chinese.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.edmontonsun.com/Business/News/2005/06/01/1066006-sun.html">http://www.edmontonsun.com/Business/News/2005/06/01/1066006-sun.html</a><br />
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    "...State-owned Sinopec, China's second-largest petroleum firm, yesterday took a 40% stake in a $4.5-billion Alberta oilsands project - a second major Chinese purchase this year in the province's energy industry..."<br />

  4. Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:11 am
    Must be red letter day in Ottawa and Edmonton ! Wow !!!!!! All those worthless US dollars the Chinese want to get rid of at any cost, coming into the country . More wealth creating foreign investment at last! Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  5. Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:03 am
    Yup. Less of Canada owned by Canadians. Good job, Ed, eh? Way to go, preaching to the world from the backside of your nowhere mountain...



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