NATO Seeks Reinforcement In Afghanistan

Posted on Thursday, September 07 at 15:30 by rearguard
The admission that Nato needs more troops in the wake of clashes that have claimed the lives of British and Canadian soldiers over the past week, highlights the challenge facing the alliance if it is to bring order to the country where the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned.

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  1. by RPW
    Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:58 pm
    <a href="http://www.mjervin.com/WPPS_Public.htm">http://www.mjervin.com/WPPS_Public.htm</a><br />
    <br />
    And with gasoline prices dropping, especially in the eastern cities, for sure Harper is in full pre-election mode..........<br />
    (anyone remember the Joe/Pierre "gas war" election?)<p>---<br>"We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."<br />
    - Justice Louis Brandeis

  2. by RPW
    Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:59 pm
    Oops! Wrong thread...(blush)......

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    "We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."
    - Justice Louis Brandeis

  3. Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:46 pm
    afghanistan war, gas war, Harper,

    naw, it all fits, it'll work in this thread too.

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    “The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

  4. Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:01 am
    "... to the country where the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned." <br><br> Daniel Dombey is privy to information no one else seems to have - to date NO proof has been released linking the location of Afghanistan, the Afghan government, or even Bin Laden, to the 9/11 attacks. <br><br> All that I saw for evidence was a very poor quality video showing a what was supposed to be Bin Laden that did not look like Bin Laden mumbling some barely intelligible words that were incorrectly translated. <br><br> <a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html">The Fake bin Laden Video Tape</a> <br><br> Does anyone know of real evidence linking Bin Laden and the Taliban to the 9/11 attacks? Even the FBI has nothing. <br><br> <a href="http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html">FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”</a> <br><br> So how is it that Daniel Dombey can say with so much certainty, that Afghanistan is where the "attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned"?

  5. by RPW
    Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:43 am
    Because more will believe that than will if he said Wahsington (or Crawford, Texas)?

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    "We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."
    - Justice Louis Brandeis

  6. Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:08 am
    Canada's contribution is worth nothing to this guy writing the article. It really just goes to show that the USA is running everything. There are no alliances anymore now that the US and Britain have f872ed up the credibility they once enjoyed. The rest of the world (except the kowtowed Canadian government) could care less about the USAmerican made wars. And I for one do not blame them, neither should we.

    Do you suppose the only reason we are there is because most of our businesses that will benefit are USA owned? So in fact OUR interests ARE the US's interests? OUR values-ables are the US's values-ables?

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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  7. by RPW
    Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:09 am
    The US is the world's most addicted nation. It NEEDS the cocaine out of Columbia, and the heroin out of Afghanistan, and the BC bud.............

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    "We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."
    - Justice Louis Brandeis

  8. by RPW
    Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:12 am
    They've had 5 years to work up this tape - cut, edit, splice, find the right actors, and released 'just in time' for 9-11 "anniversary":<br />
    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/07/al-qaeda-tape.html">http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/07/al-qaeda-tape.html</a><br />
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog</a><p>---<br>"We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."<br />
    - Justice Louis Brandeis

  9. Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:41 am
    I see the CIA has released another "new" Bin Laden tape - thanks for the heads up. <br><br> The CBC report said "the images aren't new", and al-Shahri who stars in the tape is one of the suspects reported by the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm">BBC as being alive after 9/11</a>. <br><br> I'm waiting for a copy of the tape to study. If anyone knows of one, let me know.

  10. Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:45 pm
    This general, like most of them, is nuts. The Soviets couldn't hold Afgh with 130,000 and he wants to do it with 20 or 25,000
    NATO troops ?

    Motorized troops are a waste of effort and lives in that country. The Taliban just walk around them. I wonder if they'd change heart and promised to permit the oil pipeline, whether they'd be dined and feasted again, as great friends of neocon market economy?

    Ed Deak.

  11. Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:40 pm
    There's a new video making the rounds today, CBC has been dutifully crowing about it for over a day now.

    It shows someone who is identified as Osama bin Laden, and a group of people identified as Al Quaeda.

    What are they doing in the video?

    Well, PLANNING 9-11, OF COURSE! I'm surprised they didn't insert tiny models of the World Trade Centre, and have the Osama actor flying a model jetliner around.

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    “The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

  12. Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:43 pm
    I'm sure Peter Mackay would begin crowing on the need for dialogue and diplomacy, as opposed to his current stance, that they are dogs in the street only fit to be shot and urinated on.

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    “The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”

  13. Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:06 pm
    <blockquote>This general, like most of them, is nuts. The Soviets couldn't hold Afgh with 130,000 and he wants to do it with 20 or 25,000 NATO troops ? </blockquote> Yes but in this case were'nt the Afhans supposed to be throwing flowers at NATO troops for saving them from the evil Taliban, or was it that NATO's superior military technology would be no match for a ragtag Afghan resistance, or was it that the reconstruction would win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people, or was it that bringing democracy and freedom to the country would create a grateful population and massive support for the occupation of Afghanistan? <br><br> It's as if the war planners actually believed their own nutty propaganda. If so, then these guys are by far nuttier than I ever imagined. <br><br> Psychopaths tend to lack empathy, therefore they are generally unable to see the point of view from anothers perspective. Lacking empathy, the military planners could not imagine what it would be like had the reverse situation been true - where the Taliban invaded the USA to save the people from the evil dictator GW Bush using manufactured excuses. They could not see what would happen if an invader tried to impose its form of government over the US people through brutal military force. They never imagined how their bogus gestures of good will would would end up backfiring, creating resentment instead of gratitude and servitude.

  14. Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:41 pm
    Yeah, Rearguard, that is an excellent analogy. About six months ago I wrote a letter to the local newspapers titled "Freedom fighter or Terrorist" in which I made the same argument comparing my personal determination to become an American Patriot resistance fighter in the deserts along the U.S. Mexican border at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis (at the time the U.S. government was telling us the Cuban and Russian troops would be pouring over the border which was only 40 miles from where I lived) with the Viet Cong, Sandinistas, Afghans, Iraqis, Hizbullah and Hamas in their struggles. The vicious letters printed in reply to my letter only accused me of an anti-semitic screed; the salient point of the distinction of being a freedom fighter was never commented on.

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    Michael



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