Canada Opposes UN Aboriginal Treaty

..snip..."rejected the assertion that aboriginal people have the right to "self-determination," saying it was inconsistent with international law."<<

Obviously that is the key issue and with reason, why it's being rejected. Provinces are made of a geographical areas to allow governing as are cities and countries. Only one representative of each local can reasonably govern. A seperate society with it's own government would only raise conflict and segregation. An isolated society immune from laws of the country they are in. The conflicts would be endless and the segregation roots would grow deeper.

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<p>boflaade,</p> <p>there have been more than a few instances where <i>condominium</i> has occurred — where more than one sovereign power exercised joint rule over a given area. One of the more interesting examples (and perhaps the most recent) was pre-independence Vanuatu, then known as the New Hebrides, which was an Anglo-French condominium. The indigenous islanders were ruled by New Hebridean law, British subjects were ruled by English law, French citizens were ruled by French law, and everyone else (called <i>optants</i>) had to choose between British and French jurisdiction. A joint court had jurisdiction over the indigenous islanders, and over any case that wasn’t British-only or French-only. The court was presided over by three judges: one British, one French, and one appointed by the King of Spain.</p><p>---<br>Shatter your ideals upon the rock of Truth.<br />
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Key word "was" makes the argument invalid today. Presently Canada has more fears of becoming part of a single North American identity. Canadian,Mexican and American authorities would never emerge as one peacefull cope. No one has to say who the domineering authority would be. Hence, seperate authorities/governments won't coincide. Quebec is the present example. The province want's it's own sovereignty and everyone assumes the province will no longer be part of Canada in that case. The province is a physical identity with borders. Aboriginals have no land mass to govern seperatly. There is also the issue that not all natives belong to a band. Who's government would they fall under?

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<p>I don’t understand why you believe that condominia, having worked in the past, would no longer work today. Would you elucidate on that?</p> <p>I understand your point regarding Canada and Mexico vis-à-vis the USA, and am not suggesting that North America from Cape Columbia to Ciudad Hidalgo should become a condominium; my point was simply that endless conflict and segregation are not the inevitable results of a condominium.</p> <p>Regarding the point of aboriginals and land mass, that is a point in the condominium’s favour; a separate land mass isn’t required because multiple legal systems can function simultaneously on a given point of land within a condominium. Perhaps individual aboriginals would be able to choose between being ruled by band law or Canadian/provincial law?</p><p>---<br>Shatter your ideals upon the rock of Truth.<br />
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I don’t understand why you believe that condominia, having worked in the past, would no longer work today. Would you elucidate on that?
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We are talking about the "West" where individual provinces bicker amongst themselves as it is. If any condominia was successfull in the past, then why do we refer to "the past"? No know situation today includes individuals living in such an arrangement. In Modern history, the mid-east would have been where condominias would/could have been launched. The parties that do condone such an arrangement have been in struggle on the Gaza-strip. Obviously not a success story.


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<blockquote>If any condominium was successful in the past, then why do we refer to “the past”? No known situation today includes individuals living in such an arrangement.</blockquote> <p>It certainly is true that there is currently no condominium on a national level; why that is the case can certainly be pondered. Perhaps the historic precedents are not well known? Perhaps those who are aware only of the example of the New Hebrides associate it exclusively within a colonial context? Perhaps those who currently have a monopoly on power (or sovereignty, if you will) are unwilling to relinquish any portion of it?</p> <blockquote>In modern history, the Mid-East would have been where condominia would/could have been launched. The parties that do condone such an arrangement have been in struggle on the Gaza-strip. Obviously not a success story.</blockquote> <p>I agree that Israël/West Bank/Gaza Strip <i>could</i> be an area where a condominium might be the right answer. But for it to be the right answer, it has to be acceptable to <i>all</i> of the involved parties, and if news from the region is any indication, that’s not the case just yet. (I wonder if a condominium would be considered to be compatible with the Hamas view of the area as a <i>waqf</i>?)</p><p>---<br>Shatter your ideals upon the rock of Truth.<br />
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— The Divine Symphony, by Inayat Khan<br />

Perhaps those who currently have a monopoly on power (or sovereignty, if you will) are unwilling to relinquish any portion of it?<<

That's it in a nut shell. The west is not even happy just holding on to their "power" in their own country. They want the influence over the east as well.

Gaza is an example of western power dictating to all envolved. The British and Americans hold more influence then one can imagine. This is history and Canada appears to be edging that way as well. I foresee Canada attempting to enter these countries (Iraq & Iran as well) through the back door while the US enters from the front. Western authorities will not allow a condominium in any country. *They will not share. I suppose Iraq & Afghanistan could be pictured as condominiums but we know who is actualy ruleing.

Canada will never allow the natives to rule themselves anymore then Quebecers. I gave the reasons but you gave the answer.


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