US Soldier Kills Wounded Iraqi On Camera.

Posted on Tuesday, November 16 at 13:40 by drcaleb
The dramatic footage was taken on Saturday by pool correspondent Kevin Sites of NBC television, who said three other prisoners wounded a day earlier in the mosque had also apparently been shot the next day by the marines. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53347-2004Nov16.html http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0A76242F-BF14-4BAA-A753-5A878666BA5A.htm http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041116.wpris1116/BNStory/International/ ------------------ This is what happens when the Geneva conventions are ignored. I think the Iraqi would have done the exact same thing if the Marine were his prisoner. Dr. C

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  1. Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:37 pm
    Nah, Iraqi insurgents are nice people. They never occupy mosques to shoot out of minarets, don't behead care workers, soldiers and other prisoners, booby trap the dead and wounded or basically deny any sort of peace to a beleaguered nation. As you see from almost every other posting at Vive, the US is the source of all evil and anyone that opposes them is a saint.

    The US will try this soldier and he will be convicted, and probably given a dishonarable discharge. Nothing very severe, which will cause a rash of additional posts on this site (joy!). But any insurgent that kills an unarmed prisoner (wounded or otherwise) is either ignored or celebrated as a valiant resistance fighter by the wonderful lefties here.

    It is quite entertaining to listen to their rants however.

  2. Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:49 pm
    Indeed it is.

  3. Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:19 am
    "Be the change you wish to see in the world" Ghandi.

    You've gotta show some respect before you get any back.



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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  4. by KWL
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:44 am
    Okay, so let's say you are living in Tulsa Oklahoma. You have just been told that your country will be attacked because some world leader says American possesses weapons of mass destruction, which is does, but for this argument let's say it does not.

    Now, this other country attacks the US and then occupies it and won't leave. Now here you are in Tulsa and you are getting tired of the occupiers in your country. So what are you going to do? I am sure you would want to fight and drive the occupiers out no? And what would you call yourself? A terrorist? An insurgent? Freedom fighter would be my guess.

    My point being, these insurgent have been branded terrorists just for fighting back. It's a joke. Americans would never stand to have another country occupy it so why should Iraqi's? The Iraqi people had nothing to do with Saddam, Saddam is now in prison, so it's time for the Iraqi's to be free. This isn't left wing ranting, it's called civilised discourse, something the right wing nut jobs of Canada and the US seem unable to do.

    As for war crimes, for every crime caught on tape how many are not?

  5. Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:59 am
    Personally I think your an idiot for thinking we could just leave Iraq would no doubt turn into a terrorist haven.

  6. by KWL
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:23 am
    Who said anything about getting up and leaving? I didn't. The US has messed things up in Iraq so badly unfortunately there are no easy answers. The simplest would be that they never should have gone in there in the first place because this is a war based on lies.

    Other countries do need to look at sending peace keeping troops in because the US left to their own devices will just keep destroying the place.

  7. by avatar canuck
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:44 am
    FYI:It already is a terrorist haven (fundamantalist extremists, both American and non-American types).

    There is nothing the US can do about it now and it will never get better until the US leaves because, right now they are NOT fighting "terrorists", they are fighting the Iraqi people.

  8. by avatar Milton
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:46 am
    Well I will say it. Get the hell out!!! You had no right to go there in the first place!!! You have tortured, murdered, raped, pillaged and plundered the country and its inhabitants. Get out!!! Who do you think you are to talk about terrorists? Shock and awe!!! Do you want me to post CIA photos of what shock and awe does. Kids with no arm and no legs!! Mutants with 5 eyes and fin type appendages. You guys are disgusting!!! Lefty bullshit is the best you can do to refute evidence of atrocities. I'll give you so many lefts you'll be begging for a right!

  9. Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:33 am
    "Well I will say it. Get the hell out!!! You had no right to go there in the first place!!! You have tortured, murdered, raped, pillaged and plundered the country and its inhabitants. Get out!!! Who do you think you are to talk about terrorists? Shock and awe!!! Do you want me to post CIA photos of what shock and awe does. Kids with no arm and no legs!! Mutants with 5 eyes and fin type appendages. You guys are disgusting!!! Lefty bullshit is the best you can do to refute evidence of atrocities. I'll give you so many lefts you'll be begging for a right!"

    Miltie,....Miltie,.........you'll get yourself in a tizzie !

    It's very simple to see what 24 carat phonies Canadians are. You never spoke out against the mass murders of Iraqis by Sadam, mass graves,.....oh, a blind eye to that too. In all your pathetic protests prior to the war, I never saw ONE SINGLE "Sadam adhere to U.N. resolutions" signs, no, not even one. I could go on and on, but why bother, admit it, you hate America ( by the way, to all people in the rest of the world outside of Canada, that means The U.S.A.)
    atleast be "man" enough to admit it, if it'll make you feel any better, you can hit me with your purse or whatever it is that you Canadian queers do when you get upset.
    You're little socialist girlie-men, snipes, complainers, and back-stabbers, indistinguishable from the French except for the fact that you don't smell quite as bad. Now go bugger off girls let real men handle the situation.

  10. by KWL
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:08 am
    Anon. is that the best you can come up with?

    "It's very simple to see what 24 carat phonies Canadians are. You never spoke out against the mass murders of Iraqis by Sadam, mass graves,.....oh, a blind eye to that too. In all your pathetic protests prior to the war, I never saw ONE SINGLE "Sadam adhere to U.N. resolutions" signs, no, not even one. I could go on and on, but why bother, admit it, you hate America ( by the way, to all people in the rest of the world outside of Canada, that means The U.S.A.)
    atleast be "man" enough to admit it, if it'll make you feel any better, you can hit me with your purse or whatever it is that you Canadian queers do when you get upset.
    You're little socialist girlie-men, snipes, complainers, and back-stabbers, indistinguishable from the French except for the fact that you don't smell quite as bad. Now go bugger off girls let real men handle the situation."

    This is rich. Calling us queers? Come on.Let real men handle the situation? Man this has to be one of the stupidest posts I have read on Vive yet.

    In fact a lot of people did speak out against Saddam's cruelty but what about the thousands dead in Latin America thanks to the US, what about the now 100 000 dead in Iraq, what about the 2 000 dead in Panama in 1989? William Blum estimates the US is responsible in some way or another for over 1 million deaths in the world. That sure must be something to be proud of hey Anon. Is this what it means to be a real man?

  11. by avatar Milton
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:14 am
    That's what I expected from you, Anonymouth. You confuse being a thug with manhood. The US administration put Saddam in power , fed him all the weapons he could buy, including chemical and biological weapons. Sucked him into invading Kuwait and then smashed the crap out of his armed forces. Then allowed him to use his air force to bomb the Kurds, whom the US had encouraged to rise up against him. Then blockaded Iraq causing the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians. Then invaded Iraq and using shock and awe managed to terrify and murder thousands more civilians. Broke all codes of warfare and human decency. Yea, a real display of manhood. Congratulations. Is it customary to exterminate people you are liberating?

  12. Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:16 am
    Just because your enemy acts one way does not mean you must act the same.

    It was war crime committed during an illegal war.

    We hung Nazis for the same.

    End of story.

  13. Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:18 am
    American sheep...

    There would have been no atrocities by Saddam if America did not put him there and support him to begin with, now would there?

    Go back to grazing.

  14. by gina
    Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:18 am
    How can you hate poor dumb animals just following the pack with the scent of blood in their nostrils. This is the third video I have seen of American soldiers (heroes?) killing wounded Iraquis, in one they actually cheered afterward. www.informationclearinghouse.info.com. See the pictures of Falluja posted by a US soldier (or journalist) who is angry and ashamed of his country then just shut your mouth and find somewhere else to spew your hate. No one is interested in what you have to say. There is no point to you. I bet rising Canadian dollars to Tim Horton's doughnuts you kick your dog.

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    gina



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