CAP Leader Connie Fogal Repeats Her Party’S Call For Full Elimination Of The GST

Why can't media pick this up? There was so much coverage when Harper said his 5 % GST proposal, but this doesn't get any air time.

Perhaps I will vote CAP..........

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RickW

Please, everybody reading this site: vote CAP, or NDP!
Since your vote won't matter anyway, use it out of principle.

While I still call myself a close friend of Connie, she forgets one thing - if you don't tax consumption, you tax payroll.

Most Canadians would rather get taxed when they spend, not before.

Love it or hate it, the GST is neccessary. In my mind it is clearly better than the system of taxation that it replaced.

Government spending unless changed will require the same or more revenues, so without the GST, they will tax us elsewhere. It is not going to be the corporations picking up the slack, so take one wild guess where the money is going to come from?

Now if the CAP tie this in with monetary reform and thus less needed taxation, then maybe they would get more ears. The presentation needs to be better.

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

There is no Nobel Prize for Economics. People tend to forget that when lending
the European banks credibility for their brilliant creation, the Prize in Honour of
Alfred Nobel. Ironic that this is coming from CAP - I thought they'd be aware of
this purchased influence. The award is handed out on the same day at varying
venues. Alfred Nobel never wanted this award to exist. He knew it could be
manupulated to serve private interests in the way this joke of an award has
been.

Correct. It is really the Bank of Sweden Pize, established around 1968, using the Nobel name illegally.

Basically, it is a circle of neoclassical economists sitting in a circle padding each other on the shoulder. Now and then it is awarded to an outsider, to appear impartial, but most of the time it is an artificial support to the neoclassical market economy theory. Friedrich von Hayek and Milton Friedman, were among the early recipients for this very reason.

Some of the Nobel family members have been talking about a lawsuit against the use of the Nobel name, some years ago, but I don't know offhand whether they'd followed it up. It is still called the Nobel to the best of my knowledge, while poor Alfred is revolving in the grave, just as Adam Smith is for the misuse and fraudulent quotations of his words..

Ed Deak, Big lake, BC.

Roy being a former candidate for CAP you must remember the GST is tied to the Monetary reform, but for those who don't check out the link, and go to bottom of page for simple explanation<br />
<a href="http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/PartyInfo/Policies.asp?A=12&B=1&C=0&D=0&Language=English">http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/PartyInfo/Policies.asp?A=12&B=1&C=0&D=0&Language=English</a><p>---<br>If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

Okay, so this thread has Connie talking about the Bank of Canada, Deak talking about neo-classical economics. Come on Wayne, add something here now about the party system!

The party system is tied closely to the existing, ruling economic system. The purpose of ideologies and parties is the control of the economic system. All parties, politicians and governments are either for, or against certain ideologies, or economic theories. The issues are inseparable and must be considered the same.

There's no point in talkig about politicians and parties without examining the economic theories they promote, or fight against.

Ed Deak.

<blockquote> Most Canadians would rather get taxed when they spend, not before. </blockquote> When INCOME tax was invented, it was the "clarion" call to the right to begin shifting all taxes onto the backs of the workers. That way, natural resources could be safely plundered without even the nuisance of a tithe to the govt. <p>---<br>RickW

So just as state has been (theoretically) separated from church, so it should also be separated from the economy. The state can govern, and can provide law. But the money to do so should be voted each and every year, by the voters, and not a penny more.

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RickW

>>>Please, everybody reading this site: vote CAP, or NDP!
Since your vote won't matter anyway, use it out of principle.<<<

Thats right! split your vote on unelectable fringe groups! It Really won't matter then!

more unsupportable drivel re: vote splitting

Arlo Gutherie Had it right! Thanks Arlo!

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the
guitar.
Ionly takes one to START a movement
Naysayers are parade pissers
They gotta be pissin on EVERY bodys parade

Catherine I know that, but it is the overall presentation. I worked as VP for CAP and ran for them, so i know them inside and out, but ordinary Canadians do not. Obviously a press release is not enough space to tie them together, but we live in an age of quick and fast if you will.

Put it simply like - We can eliminate the GST and lower payroll taxes through monetary reform. By eliminating the usury on our national debt we can finance more while taking less. - or something along those lines. But lets face it, talking about monetary reform goes in most people's ears and out the other side. They don't want to hear it or are not ready to hear it. The Greens are also talking of monetary reform, and I most certainly will be, but it is not a major selling point for grabbing votes without giving it more sparkle if you will.

Most Canadians if you say "we will eliminate the GST" will think okay great but where is that revenue to be made up from? I think the Cons already see that most people would rather see a large and substantial decrease in payroll taxes before the reduction or elimination of the GST. For many they will see more money back that way.

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.