09:48:18 EST Oct 30, 2006
Canadian Press: MARK STEVENSON
OAXACA, Mexico (AP) - Federal forces pushed protesters and striking teachers out of Oaxaca's city centre where they have spent the last five months, but it was still uncertain whether more than one million schoolchildren would return to classes Monday in the embattled city where riot police and burned-out vehicles still line the streets.
The colonial city, a favourite of tourists, more closely resembled a battleground, with police controlling the main square and leftist protesters still roaming the streets with sticks and gasoline bombs. The protesters announced plans for new marches on Monday, and the shuttered, graffiti-smeared storefronts, cafes and hotels showed few signs of anything resembling normality.
Reality:
"Well, basically, we have at least three persons dead. We have also lots of injured, people disappeared, and many people in jail. And they are transporting them to the military zone, involving the army in this illegally. And we have reports that some of them are being tortured.
I don’t know for how long we will be able to control the rage of the people to have this self-restraint. Yesterday, you could see many adults controlling the rage of the young people that wanted to attack. These are people that have been humiliated, offended, attacked and oppressed, and they have a lot of anger. But still, they controlled their anger and decided to use nonviolence. But we don't know for how long we will be able to control the young people that are ready to confront the police and start more violence.
[Amy Goodman] Gustavo, I want to play for you part of one of the last interviews that Brad Will conducted before his death. It was with a female protester in Oaxaca. We don’t know her name, but the footage was found on Brad’s last videotape.
UNIDENTIFIED PROTESTER: [translated] From the pickup you see over there, two men got out, gun in hand, and started shooting at us. From that pickup over there, they went there. Then they started attacking us. That’s why all the people came outside to defend us. This morning, one of our comrades was kidnapped. He was taken by three men, and he hasn’t been found yet. That’s why they burned that pickup.
These guys are the PRIstas, members of the PRI, from the municipality of Santa Maria Ixcotel, and are paid for by the PRI. They’re paid 300 pesos a day to come and beat us up.
As you can see, we’re not teachers here. We’re just people. We are people here, not teachers. We’re people, not teachers. We’re just people, the people fighting for our rights. We don't want to live like this anymore. We don't want to live in a constant state of repression, of blackmail, of murder and shabby deals. When Ulises leaves Oaxaca, at that moment we will have peace. If he does not leave, we are not going to leave Oaxaca."
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Mexico Slides Into Civil War
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Even we lethargic Canadians will at some point protest "with gusto"........
And when the States of the US start breaking up.......
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"Son, if you wanna get ahead in this world, never work for another man as long as you live."
Bush and company will make an end run to Paraguay, and HOPEFULLY be blasted out of the sky while on the way there by air units from Cuba and Venezuela.
In this ONE case, I'd fully support the use of air to air nukes just to make sure the SOB's in question stay dead.
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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"
"The Weapon" - Rush
Notice that according to that CBC report, the entire conflict is because of a teachers strike!!!!
Well, at least they've finally acknowledged that there is a conflict in Mexico.
Funny stuff, if you're able to look in from the outside.
This could well be the start of a full scale Mexican civil war, triggered by a phony election and nazi thug mentality in the police and government, and our media is treating it like it's comparible to when the BC Teachers Federation went on strike.
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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”
One other thing I thought of, is that the media only mentions the violence AFTER government troops in uniform (as opposed to the thugs out of uniform) move in and "take control" over the situation. Talk about Orwellian.
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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/09/05/mexico-election060905.html">http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/09/05/mexico-election060905.html</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060905132648871">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060905132648871</a><br />
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The path to the confrontation in Oaxaca is clear. Lose your people's confidence, and your on the slippery slope to revolution. Wait until Dec 1, when Fox leaves office.<p>---<br>“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”
It's all going to depend on how unified the military is, I would think.<p>---<br>"Son, if you wanna get ahead in this world, never work for another man as long as you live."
'The dispute started as a strike by teachers, but spread as anarchists, students and Indian groups joined the protest, occupying the city centre and building barricades on some streets.'
Again, they are not PEOPLE, ordinary citizens who have finally taken so much crap that they have had enough and have taken to the streets, at great risk to their life, and have done so largely without violence,
They are 'teachers', 'anarchists', 'students' and 'Indian groups'. At least two of those 4 labels are legitimate targets for shooting by most right-wing gun nut groups. In Mexico, apparently they don't even bother to hire assassins, the local city officials and cops just go out and start blasting.
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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”
If anyone had more at stake in making sure the election didn't go to Obrador, it's the CFR. If Obrador had offical recognition in winning the election the propsect of getting the NAU implemented before 2010 would have been impossible.
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<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-pastor8jul08,0,51027.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions">http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-pastor8jul08,0,51027.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions</a>
Actually that's not true. All elections PERIOD are marked by bitterness. People seldom actually take to the streets, though, to protest, unless they see serious problems in the outcome that does not match with what everyone was predicting. In other words, when things just don't add up (pun intended) and the massively favoured candidate instead loses, and there is widespread talk of voting irregularities.
This is seen in both of the last US elections, and now in Mexico. Here are many many quotes from people OTHER than your lone American who claim otherwise.
Lopez Obrador (the LOSER) has raised issues that must be addressed fully and fairly by the TRIFE for his party to be persuaded that the vote wasn't stolen, and that may require a complete recount. On Thursday, the IFE's very competent president announced who had the most votes, but only the TRIFE can certify who is president, and its final deadline is Sept. 6.(Note: IFE declared Calderone the winner and the court rejected Obrador's appeal on Sept 5th).
Sophie McNeill, an Australian TV reporter for SBS Dateline Australia, reported that there were 673 international election observers, and 130 thousand polling stations. She also reported that Ted Lewis, president of the left-leaning Global Exchange, said that the electoral tribunal put out a widely reported, but incorrect, press release that said that the observers witnessed a clean and fair election. Ted Lewis also said that "two thirds of the other observers were diplomats who are not allowed to make public comments."
The Global Exchange group of 24 international observers claims it found fraud or irregularities at all of the 60 polling places it observed, and called for a full recount.
The Civic Alliance, (an election watchdog group in Mexico), claimed that many irregularities occurred. For example; it claimed that in Lopez Obrador strongholds he received 312,450 less votes than his allied senatorial candidate. In Calderon strongholds there were 403,740 more votes for President than for Senator.
The Civic Alliance also claimed that in some Calderon strongholds the number of votes cast greatly exceeded the number of registered voters.(!!!!!) (huge warning flag there. This also happened in the 2000 US election)
The Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) reported that "61,192 of 126,139 ballot boxes contained 'adding up' errors. Election workers received a fixed and recorded number of blank ballots for each ballot box, and were instructed to keep track of them. Yet for nearly half of all ballot boxes, the total votes plus leftover blank ballots did not add up to the number of ballots received."
Many others from many of the political parties have also made claims of fraud and irregularities. See the info in the many linked articles in the "references" and "further reading" sections below.
Several articles claim similarities between the alleged irregularities in this election and those claimed in the 2000 United States presidential election.
(All snippets from Wikki).
So who do we believe? Who is the IFE? Have they been bought out? Are they being intimidated? That's yet another story worth investigating.
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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”
In Mexico, at least 100,000 people packed Mexico City’s central square Monday to mark the launch of a parallel government led by defeated Presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.
Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador: "This legitimate government will perform a deep democratic transformation. Our main goal will be, the goal of the legitimate government I insist, will be the protection of the people's rights and the defense of Mexican patrimony and national sovereignty."
Lopez Obrador insists Mexico’s election was stolen and says his parallel government will be a check on President-elect Felipe Calderon.
(src: democracy now!)
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“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous, the essential act of warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour”