Its my pet peeve about liberal leftists in debates. The problem is that liberal leftists think that politics is the bloody Oxford debating society. That you score points by being clever. Well you actually have to open your mouth and say something to score points. And one of the failures of the NDP is that they don't.
They have a fear of luquacious interruptis. It's a historic problem with the NDP its why Ed Broadbent lost the debate and the election in 1988 when he sat back and let Mulroney and Turner punch it out over Free Trade. The issue was the NDP's and it was stolen by Turner. And all Ed did in the debate was sit on the sidelines slack jawed.
If the NDP wants to make any gains, let alone set the agenda of this election as they did in the spring sitting of parliment, its time to take the gloves off. Look into the camera and open your mouth and say something.
Read the whole article at Le Revue Gauche
http://plawiuk.blogspot.com/2005/12/how-ndp-blows-it.html
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How The NDP Blows It
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this "poll" ... a very faulty poll indeed (among other faulty polls).
I'm wondering when there will be some serious checks on pollsters
taking over our brains and leading the electorate down the garden
path with factual error presented as gospel truth.
Then have a 2nd look at the faulty "poll" commissioned by the
Globe and Mail and published a day or two before the B.C.
provincial election May 2005 ... a very similar story to this
supposed drop (not) in New Democrat ratings -- obviously
intended to influence the voting results.
When people say "Throw the bums out," I'm thinking more and
more it must refer to these pollsters who are so often
Conservatives themselves, hired by Conservatives or Liberals
hoping for a Cons or Lib result.
For example: how did Allan Gregg (once Mulroney's brain) get to
be a pundit -- explaining everything to Canadians on national TV?
Which is it: sheer laziness or penny-pinching on the part of the
news gatherers? It sure as heck IMHO ain't fair.
We are going on 15 years since any conservative party was in power. Don't you think linking the libs and conservatives into one group is getting a little played? I know it is convenient for the left to to this - but it makes you guilty of the exact spin that you rightfully decry.
The last party to hop in the sack with the Liberals was Jack and the Dippers. Propped them up long enough to bury opposition days, so that Gomery could clear Martin...setting the stage for his million dollar a day cross country taxpayer funded pre-election spending spree. Blame that on a conservative pollster. Let's see you spin the big lie.
And if Cdns are that soft in the head that we have to hear a pundit tell us what to think, or see who's winning in the polls before we vote - then we deserve another 15 years of corrupt Fiberals regardless.
Sean
that Liberals and Conservatives commissioned polls. As in "you
and I" are talking about polls, but definitely are not "one group."
Perhaps I should have said Liberals commission polls hoping for
good Liberal results. Conservatives commission polls hoping for
good Conservative results. Seems logical to me. You? Which is
why I think there should be accountability in the pollsters' game.
Your "blame" tirade doesn't make sense to me at all.
Is there some rule in the Conservative handbook which requires
you to be rude if you think I am an NDP? Not cool. Not a good
idea. Dumb, in fact.
The NCR is completely run by Libs. Anyone even resembling a conservative does not get appointed to the judiciary, gg, crown corps, the senate, prov lieut gov's, DM's etc, etc. In fact Liberals have thrust themselves down into the civil service, as we have seen at DND. But I have seen senior posts go to the odd reformed N-dipper. And I bet Buzz will be the next receipient of such patronage.
<<Is there some rule in the Conservative handbook which requires you to be rude if you think I am an NDP? Not cool. Not a good idea. Dumb, in fact.>>
Nothing requires me to be rude. Anything in the [place fringe party here] handbook that allows you to accuse people of being rude, then suggesting they are dumb within the same paragraph? Come on. Lighten up!
Sean