Drugs, Crime In General, And Justice

You forgot Alcohol, it should be immediatly criminalized, it causes death and
destruction to families and society, I'd say 20 years for simple possession
with no option for parole either.

You also forgot Tabacco in all it's forms, should be immediatly criminalized, it
causes death, huge health care costs, and therefore destruction to society,
another 20 years for simple possesion with no option for parole here as well.

What about Caffiene?
Truely addictive, Truely a DRUG, all the emplyee's at Second Cup and
Starbucks should be charged for DRUG dealing! 20 years with no option for
parole here either, my wife has threatedned to kill me on a number of
occations before she gets her morning FIX, is that not what addiction and
threats to family and society you are talking about?

When you start looking at DRUGS you need to look at all of them, mentioned
here is just the start, after this we need to look at prescription drugs as well,
OXICONTIN, SSRI's, the list goes on and on, also destroying societies and our
health care system, another 20 years for both the doctor and patient, he is
obviosly the pusher in this situation, the pharmacist would need to be
charged here as well for being the drug dealer, once you have put these
people away for 20 years each with no parole, then you would have to go
after the grow-ops, I mean Drug Producers like Glaxo SmithKline, those
executives and employees right down to the mail room clerk should all get 20
years as well, I see no difference between Cocaine, Heroin, and Oxicontin and
other OPULATES, or narcotic analgesics, they all block "pain" signals to the
brain.

We surely do not want our society destroyed by DRUGS!

Damnit all I am out of beer, I better go to the locar DRUG dealer, oh I mean
liqour store, better stop off at Shoppers Drug Mart and pick up a pack of
DRUGS oh I mean cigarettes while I am at it! First I better have a couple of
TYLENOL's to rid me of this headache....

your shopper's still sells cigarettes here in ontario they stopped years ago.
good comment,
only wish I had some green (medical usage, it lowers my blood sugar count, and relieve my chronic pain from arthritis)

We should also give the death penalty to Corporate Puppet Politicians for Corruption , Collusion , Greed and Treason .

For that matter all corp exe.s as well

Good points made in (what I take is) a satirical manner.

Question to Mr. Callaghan:
Say I'm in a car with a bunch of friends. It's not my car. An officer stops us, is paranoid because we're *EVIL TEENAGERS*, and decides to check the trunk. 'Lo and behold, there's a sawed-off shotgun in Little Johnny's dad's car. Should all four of us be sent to jail for five years?

The purpose of a criminal justice system isn't to screw over people who made bad decisions for life. It's to reform behaviours that are counterproductive to a functional society, and in cases where the person cannot be reformed due to psychological reasons or whatnot, put him/her in a situation where he/she cannot do any harm.

Haven't we learned yet that punishment alone does not work?

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--Ændrew Rininsland

I hear you Jim, it is the frustration at seeing criminals doing so much harm and then getting all the rights. But there has to be some flexibility in our system, I don't think it is right the way it is now, but I think the solution you express is a tad extreme also.

It isn't that we don't have the laws to handle the problems, but they aren't enforced or this idea that life means 1/3 time for good behaviour is crazy, it was the behaviour that got them into jail in the first place. I do think that jail is suppose to rehabilitate, but too often it just teaches new tricks especially to the young.

I don't agree with convicts having so many rights though, after all that is part of the deterant, you lose your rights, you don't vote, you don't watch t.v. or get your phd, you don't have cozy clothes to wear and delicious meals, you are in jail. If you know that by making a decision today, you really will pay for that crime, then you might think twice. It won't stop serial criminals, or really serious offenders, child molesters and random murderers; these people should be given mandatory treatment and if they cannot be rehabilitated they should stay locked up indefinitely.

The likes of Clifford Olsen should never see the light of day, and serial murderers should be given consecutive terms not concurrent...I also don't like the idea of the state paying so Karla Homolka could get a degree in psychology; her victims did not have that opportunity! Besides is that really going to help her get a job when she gets out, I mean do we really want a serial killer, treating people with social problems??

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

That would depend on who takes responsibility for the ownership of the gun.

No one coughs up, then yes, they all get charged. It's up to the individuals to save their own butt, and if they want to protect the real owner, they get the penalty.

The cops have a hard time when they go to the site of a shooting, nobody wants to talk, they are afraid to.

That has to stop, because the shooter will keep the gun and shoot again.



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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

I also hear you, Jim. My position is this: violent crimes like murder and rape, or killing someone while driving impaired, LIFE with no parole. Repeat sex offenders, well, that`s a no brainer. LIFE with no parole. People in the child porn business-LIFE with no parole. I`m all for rehabilitation, but when it comes to violent crimes like this, the victim`s families must be left with a feeling that justice was done, and of utmost importance, society MUST be protected from people like this! But if a kid steals something, by all means, try to rehabilitate. As for drugs, I`d like to see marijuana legalized, but would like to see a huge crackdown on people who deal the hard drugs like crack, heroin, and speed. LIFE for these losers. Same with pimps. They are the scum of the earth. LIFE! But if someone is merely an addict, then the problem should be looked at as a medical issue, not a legal one. That would be just. And again, I think the legal system should be about justice, not about he who can afford the best lawyer walks! Public universal counsel and defense is what should be implemented!

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Dave Ruston

If an officer pulled me over for, say, speeding, then wanted to look in my trunk or glove box etc, I'd say "no". He has no right to search the car without probable cause, and he pulled me over for speeding and therefore will find no more evidence of speeding in that trunk.<p> I do not tolerate abuse of power from anyone.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

I quit drinking alcohol, caffeine, smoking cigarettes and pot a few years ago and have never felt more free and clean... it is unbelievable how smothering the monkey on your back is until you knock him off. The stuff ain't good.

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I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.

Amelia from Edmonton

... corporate crime costs society waaaaaay more than street crime. The focus is put on the wrong criminal. Street criminals affect one person at a time - corporations affect the whole country - pollution, tax evasion, fraud, etc. That impacts us more than the junkie on the street corner - or homicide, which statistically occurs among non-strangers, typically firends or relatives of the offender.

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I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.

Amelia from Edmonton

Why do we have to chose, should not both criminals be addressed in our system? Rating crime against the person which in the end does effect our whole society and the actual crimes against society which in the end affect the person; both are crimes and I believe we need to address both, not one instead of the other.

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

The cop would have no right to look in your trunk.


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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

Thanks Dave, I feel much better now.

To the others, you can't compare white collar crime to violent crime.

Yes, we should put corporate jerks in jail, but when a person is murdered, it affects more than one person, it affects extended families, and in some gruesome cases, even the cops are affected.

Violent crime is where I have a problem with our parole system.

More, I was not referring to pot, I was after the hard drugs that ruin lives and society.


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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

Firstly, in some areas the police are allowed to search your vehicle without warning or motive. An example is a Military community. I have a friend who lives in one, and there are signs in front of the entrance saying that by entering, you allow the MPs full authority over your car in case they wish to search it. But I digress.

You're still missing my point.

I'm saying that by using a blanket statement such as "All people who are in the vehicle at the time should be arrested because they're criminals by association" is ludicrous. It sounds like I'm contorting what you're saying, but that's essentially it. Whatever happened to "Freedom of association"?

Secondly, Mr. Callaghan, you mentioned that unless the people in the car say who the gun belongs to, they <i>deserve</i> to go to jail. Then, you go on to mention how police can never get information at the site due to fear.

So, essentially, isn't that what you're saying is that people should be punished for being afraid?

Some thoughts. My point is that when we get to a system of justice where you're automatically guilty by association, we're in a lot more trouble than having a bunch of people running around with unregistered weapons.

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--Ændrew Rininsland