No Privacy - FBI Has Personal Data On Edmonton Lawyer

Posted on Friday, December 10 at 15:13 by tyrannyresponse
Revenue Canada, meanwhile, has pledged to look under its own rocks to find out if it was responsible for turning over personal financial information from Engel's law office to American authorities. "We're going to try to find out where this came from," said department spokesman Ron Quinn, adding he "couldn't think of any circumstances" under which Revenue Canada would release such information to U.S. authorities. Sims told The Sun this week he found financial data linked to Engel's firm in an immigration file he requested from the U.S. government as part of his battle against deportation to Canada. The information included personal income, taxes paid, Canada Pension Plan contributions and social insurance numbers. Engel represented late broadcaster Keith Rutherford when he filed suit against Sims and other white supremacists for their violent attack on him in Sherwood Park in 1990. Sims was convicted for the attack that year but later moved to the U.S. He is now being detained by U.S. authorities pending his deportation back to Canada. Sims told The Sun his immigration file also included documents from the Edmonton Police Service and Alberta RCMP. Neither agency is planning its own investigation. Tim Chander, spokesman for the provincial Information and Privacy Commissioner's office, said commissioner Frank Work will investigate the EPS's contribution to the file. Privacy law experts were scratching their heads yesterday over the data leak. Ontario lawyer Ross Wells said Engel may have a lot of trouble getting answers out of the Americans. "American privacy law is pretty much non-existent," he said. "Obviously some Canadian agency gave this information to the U.S. government - but I can't think of why, or how it could have been obtained legally." "In the U.S., law enforcement authorities have a great deal of latitude in collecting personal information and a lot of legal immunity while they're doing it," said Michael Geist, law professor at the University of Ottawa. Engel said the whole incident has him and his family thinking about the so-called Overtime Lounge affair, in which EPS officers are alleged to have set up a drunk-driving sting to capture police commission chairman Martin Ignasiak and Sun columnist Kerry Diotte. "My wife's taking it harder than I am. She's starting to wonder if we should worry about our personal security."

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  1. Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:22 am
    This is terrible, the only good side is that it happened to a lawyer, because hopefully, they will at least know how to get to the bottom of it and it might pave the way for the rest of us!

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  2. Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:31 pm
    Certain Canadian authorities appear extremely cavalier in sharing your personal information of all kinds with the United States. Weak, no, bad laws in both countries effectively mean there is NO PRACTICAL REDRESS for an ordinary citizen injured by these irresponsible actions. Canadian assurances (or US ones for that matter) concerning the use of such information as often as not seem UTTERLY WORTHLESS. Once the personal information of a Canadian is entered in a US computer system or enters the public domain in that country, there is nothing anyone in Canada can reasonably do to repair or mitigate the damage. With the official national policy of both countries regarding "security" looking to many of us like one of raving paranoia fuelled by the best lies money can buy, anyone challenged for sharing information will just draw that blanket around them to completely cover up any careless or malicious acts. The aggrieved citizen can whistle dixie, no matter how innocent or how badly hurt they may be. Canada should be ashamed of this, but the kind of people who do or sanction such things are long ago beyond shame and hence beyond reason.

    We are very remiss as ordinary Canadians that we do not pressure our parliamentarians much much more on this matter. Good people have already been wantonly destoyed for nothing by this sort of thing, and it is incumbent on all of us to see that it stops..soon..no matter what stories our politicans try to sell us.

  3. Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:06 pm
    Why would someones financial information be anywhere near this file? Are Canadians put in a file that has *all* their personal information from A-Z in it and if E is asked for you're welcome to A-Z no questions asked? Or is the CIBC involved in this too? I really am staring to think we're all worring about our privacy 30 years too late. We didn't see where technology was taking us soon enough. I just think it's game over. We're had. Maybe the only way to win again is to falsify as much of our information as possible or give additional information just make it so complicated that there is nothing that the authorities can trust anymore. We need to make their game work for us now.

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