O Canada; Oy Vey United States

Posted on Wednesday, April 21 at 14:13 by Anonymous
Over the years, Canadians might have coalesced around a shared sense of history but for the fact that they have so little of it they consider worth remembering. The country never fought a revolution or a civil war, pioneered no great social or political movement, produced no great world leader and committed no memorable atrocities ? as one writer put it, Canada has no Lincolns, no Gettysburgs and no Gettysburg addresses.

To which Carleton University history professor Blair Nearby responded with customary Canadian restraint, "If history is wars and confrontation and winner-take-all decisions, then we don't have very much of that...But if you think that history can be a record of individuals arriving at decisions through consensus, negotiation or through the political system then we have a pretty long and commendable record."

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  1. by avatar Jesse
    Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:54 pm
    Some very good comparisons being made here. I find it interesting that the big car manufacturers support public health care! Corporate interests may actually help people for once.

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    Jesse

  2. Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:18 pm
    Interesting article. It is unfortunate that Canadian history isn't given more attention here in Canada because without an understanding of how we got here, we risk being swept away by any populist sentiment of the day.

  3. Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:42 pm
    I think corporate interests often could benefit the people. Unfortunately, most corporations don't want to be the one to step up and pay the extra taxes or provide the extra health insurance or make their plants safer because they're so competition-driven.

    But a great article, although there's a strong push in Canada to make things MORE American, and they kind of just left that out.

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    Kory Yamashita

    "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

  4. Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:58 am
    That's the Canada I'm 4,and it feels like the US citizens that are feeling desperate over their situation are looking to that Canada for guidance. The sad and disappointing reality is is that we're no longer who they perceive us to be.

  5. Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:54 am
    No, we`re still what they perceive us to be, it`s just that our government, and corporate plutocrats, since 1984 have abandoned the Canadian vision. Oh, and this clown says we have no history? More right wing manifest destiny propaganda! WW1, WW2, Korea, we were there, and contributed BIG TIME for such a small populated country. MacKenzie King, Pearson, Trudeau, Douglas. These guys are second to none!! Wait! Can`t forget where the Canadian nation materialized - 1812! And Canada may not have had violent revolutions, but Canadians have revolutionized the non-violent notion of multi-lateralism and diplomacy!

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    Dave Ruston

  6. Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:13 am
    How is Pearson second to none? He disgraced himself with his nuke stance, didn't he?....and what did he and Trudeau do to lead us well with respects to wars?

  7. Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:15 am
    Oh yeah, I thought the Liberals were continentalists, mostly....I'm getting confused on this site.

  8. Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:49 pm
    Pearson was the last PM we had to have the cajones to stand up to the US. John F. Kennedy launched a smear campaign that disgraced him, because Kennedy could.<p> So much for the US love of Democracy.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  9. Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:19 pm
    I thought Pearson didn't stanf up to the States?! He replaced Diefenbaker with the U.S.'s help, say many former PCs. Isn't that true?

    And I thought Trudeau was our last PM to stand up to the United States? (at least at times)

  10. Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:09 pm
    I may be mistaken. Long day, not enough caffine :)<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  11. Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:23 pm
    well, I'm sure they smeared Diefenbaker, Pearson maybe.

  12. Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:57 pm
    Pearson WAS in bed with kennedy. As soon as the US orchastrated coup on Dief went through, Pearson immediately installed US nukes on Canadian soil. Trudeau would later reverse that policy. Person DID however piss off johnson when he gave a speech at a US uni denouncing the Vietnam war. Johnson actually lifted Pearson up by the lapels at camp david and said 'you pissed on my rug!' Read lawrence martin's the presidents and the prime ministers for scores of other fascinating anecdotes.

  13. Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:59 pm
    J. Granatstein claims that Paul Hellyer convinced Pearson to accpet U.S. nukes...is that accurate?

  14. Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:52 pm
    In what book was that claim made?



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