CAP Accepts Challenge To Debate On NAFTA

Way to go Costen! This exactly what we need; to get these important matters on the election agenda and have them publically and frequently debated. That would be a big step in the right direction.

The problem is, of course, that a debate nobody hears or knows about is not much better than no debate at all. If this discussion goes forward, some way must be found to make it as public as possible, and to see that it receives extensive media coverage. Perhaps this is an opportunity for CBC workers to reciprocate the support they have received and continue to receive from the Canadian Action Party. I will be watching with great interest.

On the Labour Day week-end of 2005, I drove from Ottawa to St. John's, Newfoundland. Gasoline prices ranged from $1.20 to $1.51 per litre. From the heart of French Quebec to the Atlantic Ocean, the air was blue with outrage. People swore on their dead ancestors that they would do something about this dispicable extortion. Never, they vowed, would they vote Liberal or Tory again! Not after this!

It seemed that finally they were beginning to realize that the federal government was largely at fault, not because of taxes, but because of their wretched NAFTA and a dumb continental energy marketing policy, which enriches fat cats and hurts people.

But the Liberals did as they always do; made a few of the right noises, called an enquiry especially designed to find nothing, then stalled and obfuscated. The movers and shakers completed their latest "bait and switch", allowing prices to drop back below $1 a litre until after the election, but keeping them 25 cents higher than they were last year and about four to five times greater than what they should be in an energy self-sufficent country. The public was duely grateful to the merciful gasoline gods, and stopped pushing the issue.

Then Gomery came back, the Conservatives gleefully jumped on that tired old wagon, and the gas price outrage vanished as if it had never existed. I haven't heard even a weak squeak about it during the entire campaign, only garbage about who has a dog-like face, is Ralph Goodale really Ralph the Good, and can some fanatics re-open the same sex marriage issue. Surely the fate of the nation turns on such monumental considerations!

Perhaps a genuine public debate on NAFTA and its fallout, particularly as it affects the energy sector, could re-focus some of those profoundly justified feelings from last September, and who knows, perhaps even forstall another massive energy rip-off which, given the success of the last one, big greed is no doubt planning for us in the very near future. All they need is a compliant or ineffective government resulting from this election, and the odds of getting one or the other are very good indeed.

But at least we're still trying. Keep it up Costen! You never know!

Cap knows and remains quiet regarding Canada's and the worlds energy future.

Human excrement + Nuclear waste = hydrogen

comeon Connie speak up

dennis

CAP is quiet about nothing! Go to our website...telling us to speak up will only serve those within hearing distance, give us a venue, give us the media, give us the soapbox, we'll be on it...

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

<<Then Gomery came back, the Conservatives gleefully jumped on that tired old wagon...>>

Tired old wagon? You must have been listening to too many Liberal talking points. Is CAP tired of holding elected officials responsible for criminal actions and widespread corruption. I get the focus is on the "neoclassical economy", "big corporations" and the US, but can't CAP multi-task?

'Is CAP tired of holding elected officials responsible for criminal actions and widespread corruption.'

Your question tells me you have not read anything from CAP. CAP has taken a very strong stand on exposing, on returning government to the people, on open transparent accountability to the people of Canada. Electoral Reform, Parliamentary Reform, Senate Reform. How could we be tired, we're only getting started? The people of Canada are tired of the rhetoric, spin and lack of accountability, and we are ready to address it.

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

<<Tired old wagon...>>

Notice the word "tired" Constance? This is Liberal spin. Oh yeah...I'm tired of hearing about envelopes full of cash, let's just move on. Apparently Chretien isn't tired of Gomery though. I guess that was the old Liberal party, not the new one. Martin and others are not responsible. What nonsense. Global conscience indeed. He doesn't even have a party conscience. CAP has been spun all around the mulberry bush on this one.

Just perused the CAP website. After suffering through the cartoon intro, I did not find any references to Gomery or Adscam on your home page or the policies section. I wonder why? Could it be that you want to lump all of the "old parties" into one group - suggesting the whole process is broken and you are the only solution. Preston tried this, pretending his party was the one pure option. It doesn't work. People see through it. Each gov't (esp the current Libs) should be held accountable. Speaking in generalities and platitudes is just another form of spin, and does our democracy or sovereignty no favours.

p.s. the missiles shooting at me in the deep integration section were very scary. Scary in that I can't believe a party that wants to be taken seriously has produced such a bizarre website.

I can understand your difficulty finding the article, because we have volumes of information for the diserning voter. But title is usually the first clue to the subject.<br />
Sponsorship scandal - 11/2/05<br />
<a href="http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/articles/Sponsorship_scandal.asp">http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/articles/Sponsorship_scandal.asp</a><br />
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As for your limited knowlege of Preston's plan and failure, the devil is in the details- corporate money spun them to the top, and brought them down, because they couldn't keep their promises to the people who elected them. We owe our loyalty to the voters, the people of Canada who drive and fund our party.<br />
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Good to see you tried to read the cartoon, perhaps a closer study would help you to understand money and its creation, and then you would really understand corruption...Sponsorship was the million dollar fiasco or scandal...we are talking about a $500 billion scandal! Which is more important ?<br />
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Thank you for your critique, most helpful.<p>---<br>If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

Oh and if you are seriously interested in Corruption take a long look at some real data.<br />
<a href="http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/articles/morphosis/index.asp">http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/articles/morphosis/index.asp</a><p>---<br>If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

My Dear anon,
I see you fit this modelto a T
as it does to 97.7% of the worlds population.the great irony here is thayt some how you seentobelieve you and you alone
"get it" You do not!
It has become a belief and at that point, as the man ( Richard Bandler) szz
All thinking stops!


“Beliefs are really phenomenal things. Beliefs can compel perfectly nice people to go out and kill other human beings foe an idea, and even feel good about it, too. “



“Getting stuck in a particular way of understanding the world –whatever that is—is the cause of three major human diseases. …
The first one is seriousness, as in “dead serious.”
If you decide that you want to do something, fine, but getting serious about it will only blind you and get in your way.

Being right, or certain, is the second disease. Certainty is where people stop thinking and stop noticing. Any time you feel absolutely certain of something, that’s a sure sign that you have missed something. It’s sometimes convenient to deliberately ignore something for a while, but if you’re absolutely certain, you’ll miss it forever.

It’s easy for certainty to sneak up on you. Even people who are uncertain are usually certain about that, too. Either they’re sure they’re sure, or they’re sure they’re unsure.
Rarely do you find someone who is uncertain about his doubts or uncertain about his certainty. You can create that experience, but you don’t usually encounter it. You can ask someone, “Are you sure enough to be unsure?” That’s a stupid question, one he won’t be sure anymore after you ask it.

The third disease is importance, and self-importance is the worst of all. As soon as one thing is “important,” then other things aren’t. Importance is a great way to justify being mean and destructive, or doing anything else that’s unpleasant enough to need justification.

These three diseases are the way most people get stuck. You may decide something is important , but you can’t get really serious about it until you’re certain that it’s important. At this point you stop thinking altogether.













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Your mantra has been your opinions are stifled due to their contrary nature, when they are actually stifled for being without perceivable foundation

<<But title is usually the first clue to the subject.
Sponsorship scandal - 11/2/05 ww.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/articles/Sponsor>>

And titles can be misleading. Esp when you read the content of that particular story. And btw: Gomery is not mentioned once, which was my point. I wasn't talking about your fake money, fake GDP, neoclassical economy fairy tales.

<<As for your limited knowlege of Preston's plan and failure, the devil is in the details...>>

...it sure is, he started out creating a new party because the "old parties" were not pure....realized over a decade later later it wouldn't succeed then came to the conclusion that...heh maybe we should unite the right?!? What a genius conclusion. Liberal liars say thanks Presto.

Diog: <<I see you fit this modelto a T as it does to 97.7% of the worlds population>>

The burden of being part of that 2.3% of the global super-smart elite must be very frustrating. I predict a long grim future for you and the CAP party, locked away in clever clever land hating people who don't see the world as you do.

Thank you for verifying the point.

"The burden of being part of that 2.3% of the global super-smart elite must be very frustrating. I predict a long grim future for you and the CAP party, locked away in clever clever land hating people who don't see the world as you do."

I am hardly surprised at your response. It is of course, all wrong.

Where you see burdon I see unburden

where you see global super-smartelite I see commonsense and wisdom
Whereyou see frustration I see great potental

Where you see grimfuture I see endless possibility

Where you see hate I see compassion

You are welcometo join in or remain as you are.

The choice is entirely up to you




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Your mantra has been your opinions are stifled due to their contrary nature, when they are actually stifled for being without perceivable foundation

Sorry Diog. Someone who claims that 97.7% of world pop (a calc that is impossible to arrive at btw) is uninformed...has nothing to say to me about "what they see".

I am hardly surprised that you see my response as "all wrong". Elites are always right. Aren't they?