Where Is The Diseased Beef?

The ban on beef was simply an easy way for George Bush to gain votes at no cost to himself or his party. Same as Softwood Lumber; same as grain import restrictions. Simple as that!

What has that got to do with the article, did you read it?

I dunno about that article. Long on scare, and to say it was playing fast and loose with the facts might be an understatement.<p> But under all the scare are some startling facts. Why are 'downers' not tested? If this is the case, why hasn't US beef been banned from importation?<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

For the same reason we're in Haiti.

Dr Caleb, it is a long article and there is more there than what you seem to have read. Millions of pounds of this beef is Canadian beef. Dave Louthan was a butcher at the slaughter house and he has seen a lot of illegal things taking place. <p>I posted an article a while back about the USDA putting a gag order on slaughter house inspectors. You may remember from other news stories that the USDA refused to allow ranchers to use the fast test on their cattle. The Japanese fast test all their cattle. Why would the USDA not allow a rancher to test his own cattle at his own expense? <p>Could it be because it is not that expensive a test and therefore all ranchers might want their cattle tested? Could it be because consumers might demand that all cattle be tested "out of an abundance of caution"? Could it be because we might find out that mad cow disease is running rampant through the North American herd? Could that be the reason that King Ralph said "shoot, shovel and shut up"? Could that be the reason for a two billion dollar price tag in Canada alone and the officials still haven't banned this type of feed from being produced at all? Something stinks!

Simple! There is no BSE, only the scare! But it was a great political opportunity.

Tell me why it is that a company in the US, which does a large business with Japan (where EVERY cow isd tested), was refused persmiision to do the same with their cattle, <b>by their own government</b>?

The Canadian government saw a "great opportunity" to use the BSE scare, to pressure small producers out of business, to be grabbed up by large beef operations. We all know that the governments we are saddled with, favour <b>BIG</b>. So tis BSE thing, which might in fact be very real, is, first and foremost, a great political opportunity, for both sides of the border.

I realize lots of this is Canadian beef, but the author of the article is using the logic; One Canadian cow had this disease, therfore all Canadian cows have this disease and if you feed it to your children they will die a horrible and painful death. It's simply not true, his assertions do not fit the facts.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

Dr Caleb, you are defending agricultural agencies that refuse to do fast tests on all the cows slaughtered for human consumption. Japan does it , why not us? It would cost a lot less than the handouts made to the slaughterhouses alone, never mind what was paid to the cow-calf producers.

Dave Louthans correctly points out that the USDA "bold faced flat out" lied. He doesn't want to feel like he had a hand in anyone contracting CJD(the human variant of mad cow disease). We have the fast test available, its cheap, lets use it. The industry is on its knees, there is nothing left to protect, so lets do the tests.

Do not read into my posts anything I have not written. If you check, you'll find I have gone <a href='http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=20040527232713901#c8159'>on record before</a> in support of full testing.<p> What he wrote was: <i>"It will go like this. One day your child will start bumping into things and slurring their speech. "</i> and later on: <i>" What we didn't know was the USDA secretly let their friends in the meat business smuggle in 30,000,000 pounds of Canadian hamburger. Untested hamburger. Hamburger from a place that not even the USDA can deny is contaminated with BSE."</i><p> He's implying that the infection rate is 100%, and that every cow in Canada is infected. This is wholly <a href='http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=20040527232713901#c8129'>untrue. </a> How is this person any different than the ranchers associations who want to keep the borders closed? Intermingled with revelations of the USDA is shooting, shoveling and shutting up, is just <a href='http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oi=defmore&q=define:FUD'>FUD</a>.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

I posted this link on the forum and on the other article about Mad Cow, it is a well researched article which will reveal to you, why it happened, our gov involvement and what we can do for the future, it includes testing all Canadian beef, which the writer claims the gov doesn't want, cause the Americans don't want it. Worth a read.

www.lgunderson.com/essay_3.pdf

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Dr Caleb, he is not implying that the infection rate is 100%, he is saying that the USDA is denying that there is BSE in the US herd but that it has already been admitted that there is BSE in the Canadian herd. He is saying that the USDA illegally let that meat into the US market. He is calling them liars. Aside from that just how is it that you know so much about whether we are or are not being subjected to diseased beef. It can't be because they are testing the stuff cause they aren't doing that. So where do you get the info to say that all he is doing is creating FUD. What he has actually accomplished in the last 5 months is to get a bill introduced in California to require 100% testing of all beef and he is working on getting bills going in other states.

This remark by Dr. Caleb: "What we didn't know was the USDA secretly let their friends in the meat business smuggle in 30,000,000 pounds of Canadian hamburger." only serves to point out that prohibition of a substance that is in demand will create a blackmarket. The USDA and US government doesn't want the American public to think there is a chance that American beef has BSE, because some people (just like booze in the 20's, and cocaine/pot today)) are making tons of money.