House Of Commons Passes Motion Against Bulk-Water Exports!

Thank you for the update. I can't believe it. Canada has said no for the first time in a long time, for something that counts. Maybe Canada can stay as it's own country after all.

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Something is wrong with reality. Up is down, down is left.

Did the HoC actually do something meaningful, and in Canada's best interests? Wonders will never cease! (or, perhaps there is something that we are missing?

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Good news - but surprise surprise - the Conservatives all voted against it. Do we need any more evidence that they hate Canada?

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

Yeah, one has to wonder how the liberals would have voted had they been the ruling party. This is a good start, but we are still a long way off, of course, from where we should be.

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Dave Ruston

If you've read anything posted by Ed Deak, he fairly well sums it up in that wealth can only be accumulated by taking it from others (and that includes future generations, or from the environment). Because there are wealthy people, it means there are people born into this society in a deficit position, and not even knowing it. And this has been going on for so long, that we look at it as "normal" -- adherents of wealth creation (aka "economists") have reams of explanations of how "natural" wealth disparity is. But none of them even come close to the truth of the matter -- and that simple truth is, 'way back at the beginning of things, wealth accumulation began by one guy taking something away from another guy. And we are the end product (to date) of umpteen thousand generations of "wealth" accumulation....

So here I am, walking along the Galloping Goose Trail in Victoria, and come across this historical marker regarding the origins of the water supply to the City of Victoria.
It seems that, in the beginning of the city's history, settlers simply went out into the backyard and gathered up spring water, and mainly from one major spring source. So one bright soul figures, if he buys up this source, he can make a fortune selling this water -- Which he did. But the people who formerly got the water for the simple effort of getting it themselves, complained, to the point where the government told him he couldn't do that anymore. Emminent public domain kind of thing.

So my question is: how did he acquire this public land (with spring) in the first place? The answer: He didn't! It was an illegal sale, made by those who didn't own it in the first place. He certainly didn't go to the settlers of the area and buy it from them (who all had equal access, hence equal "ownership" of this resource).

Now imagine if you will, the thousands, the millions, of illegal sales that have been made over the centuries, which no one contested.......or contested futilely.

Our society has its roots in and continues to practice, the "might is right" axiom. Simply put, those with the biggest stick get more. You can gussy it up with all the pretty words you want, but the only way you can own anything, is by taking it away from someone else. And if someone takes it away from you, it only shows that you weren't the big dog after all.

The Conservatives would love to have the biggest stick......

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Good news - but surprise surprise - the Conservatives all voted against it."

The Liberals did worse. The scumbags refused to show face. They obviously weren't for it, judging by past record. They hid rather then show their true colours. They made absolutely no representation and yet ask us to vote them back in. At least we know the Con's are to give us the shaft (as they displayed) but the Liberals will hide while doing the same thing.

I am shocked to see the NDP finaly stand up and be heard.

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Congratulations to Peter Julian and the NDP party for their hard work on this file!<br />
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This is such an important issue and the protection of our water will be THE issue of the 21st century, as Maude Barlow and others have pointed out.<br />
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I think it's scandalous that the Conservatives have rejected this motion and voted against it, but we have to remember that Harper is just George Bush's lapdog, so he has already been trained to listen to his master.<br />
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The NDP should not conclude that this issue will go away(the issue of water) since the 'deep integration' they refer to will lead to the North American Union in 3 years. I have written 4 articles about the effects of the North American Union which are available on this site or on my webpage at <a href="http://www.realitycheck.typepad.com">www.realitycheck.typepad.com</a>.<br />
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Under the governance of the NAU all the rules will change again and you can bet the Americans will be sure to change to law regarding 'bulk water' exports from Canada.

Dont get too excited folks it does after all say "That the Standing Committee RECOMEND that the government quickly BEGIN talks with its American and Mexican counterparts to exclude water from the scope of NAFTA."
Given that ALL the Government members voted against this do not expect any action anytime soon!!


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When you are up to your ass in alligators it is difficult to remember that the initial objective was to drain the swamp

The House also voted overwhelmingly, including Paul Martin as Finance Minister at the time, accepting another NDP motion for the Tobin tax, but it has never been put into law by the same people, Party and government, who voted for it.

So, what can we expect from a government who voted against water exports?

Which means , those water exports could start any day, just like log and other resource exports now going on, without any further consultation with anybody.

To remain "competitive", of course, which is the utmost purpose of human life in this brave new world.

Ed Deak.

The other shoe ?
I am alway skeptical of gov and this would be an about face
or at least the other face



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Lao-tzu, Orie

Yes, all this motion says is that the government must begin talks immediately to exclude bulk water exports from NAFTA.

And the government being?

Harper: 'Uh, can we, uh, leave out bulk water exports from NAFTA, mr. president?'

George: 'ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! What are we going to drink when we run out of our own water??'

Harper: 'oh, ok. Never mind then. There, we discussed it'

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