Yet there has been a disturbing chill in U.S.-Canada relations. There are noticeable differences between Canadians and Americans in their attitudes toward government, religion and authority at home, and the role of international institutions, the resolution of conflict, the assessment of threats and the use of force abroad...
[snip]...There is danger that these disagreements poison the dialogue. Anti-Canadian sentiment in the U.S. and anti-Americanism in Canada can prompt politicians on both sides of the border to dig in their heels rather than move toward common ground. It is thus disappointing that media on both sides of the border are stoking the fires of discord.
A starting point should be greater public awareness. Americans and Canadians must understand how much they benefit from U.S.-Canada relations. One need only look at most of the map of the world to understand the enormous benefit of sharing a border with a friend rather than a foe. It would be tragic if we allow a set of disagreements to corrode one of the most successful bilateral relationships in history.
There is danger that these disagreements poison the dialogue. Anti-Canadian sentiment in the U.S. and anti-Americanism in Canada can prompt politicians on both sides of the border to dig in their heels rather than move toward common ground. It is thus disappointing that media on both sides of the border are stoking the fires of discord.
A starting point should be greater public awareness. Americans and Canadians must understand how much they benefit from U.S.-Canada relations. One need only look at most of the map of the world to understand the enormous benefit of sharing a border with a friend rather than a foe. It would be tragic if we allow a set of disagreements to corrode one of the most successful bilateral relationships in history.
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...and glossing over the fact that anti-Canadianism on the part of Americans is a relatively recent phenomenon, whereas visceral anti-Americanism has long been part of the Canadian political fabric, particularly among the left in this country.
The same Canadians who routinely compare Americans to Nazis and deride them as inbred, religion-addled imbeciles, and who derived pleasure from watching Rick Mercer set up innocent people for humiliation for the sole crime of being American, get bent out of shape when some second-tier political commentator in the US calls Canada "Soviet Canuckistan".
If you hurl hatred and abuse at someone long enough (no matter how passive-aggressively), he's start hating you back. Any "point" or legitimate grievance you have gets lost in the hostility and ill will that ensues.
Until we classify anti-Americanism with all the other group hatreds that well-meaning liberals have been trying to relegate to the trash bin, Canadians will continue to reap what we, in our self-righteous narcissism, have sown.
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>>Once again, the vast majority of canadians have nothing at all against your average american. It is the policies and the actions of the United States that are hated here and around the world. Hatred for a government that appears to be completely out of control is well-placed. <<<
Canadian anti-Americanism goes back much further then the current administration. I can remember stupid cracks about the USA when Jimmy Carter was president. That tired old line that you are against the government and not the people doesn’t fool anyone anymore. Its just another self-serving Canadian myth.
Unfortunately, many of them have been brainwashed and have supported the Bush agenda of conquering and killing around the world. The majority of Americans haven't woken up to the fact that their country has become a police state and their rights and freedoms under the Patriot Act are becoming non existent. Perhaps after seeing 1600 body bags returned from Iraq, and hearing about 100,000 Iraqi civilian lives lost, they'll come to their senses. There's always hope I suppose.
You mention in the article that Americans share the same values as Canadians. The democracy and freedom you will find in the U.S. is pretty much an illusion as I have mentioned, and as President Putin stated on 60 Minutes, you can't "export" democracy like it was a commodity. It takes years, and even generations to change the way a society thinks about a political system.
The United States actually does the opposite of what it says it does. It will, and has supported brutal dictatorships in the world as long it is in American interests. Then they play the "democracy and freedom card" for whatever it's worth.
The Bush cabal is run by criminals with no conscience, who place no value on human life. There are countless examples of this. I'm certainly not interested in sharing any of their values, thank you very much.
The trade agreements are mutually beneficial and are necessary for the economies of both countries.
I am against any agreements that will decrease the power of Canada to exert its sovereignty, including missile defence, intelligence and military operations.
Remember, the citizens of the United States are spending 50% of every federal tax dollar to pay for past, present and future military expenses. Their military budget is set for $500 Billion for 2005. That's not a value I support either.(see my recent post on this)
The American agenda is to form the United States of North America, of which Canada will be a part. Look for more efforts by the Americans and the CIA to upset our government in Canada and create unrest. They want us to be in a state of turmoil, so they can bring on the amalgamation, just as the countries in Europe have formed the European Union.
We will need to harness all of our resources and be prepared to deal with this reality.
"Anti-American" = Neoconspeak for "opposition to US govt. foreign policy and corporations"
Don't think for a moment you can push your Nazi-like propaganda here nonnymouse. We are wise to your tricks.
And I can recall with at least equal clarity of American jokes and jabs about Canada. So what exactly is your point and why are you so thin-skinned?
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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?
Over at any rightwing site the above poster would be cheered for his ditto'ing. At a centrist site he would be given gentle bemusement by some. At a progressive site, we have seen this sad old comment hundreds of times. Most would call it trolling, I would peg it to a great example of someone who is an easy mark for propoganda.
When three-quarters of the earths people hate America and its government and its policies, why on earth do you dittoheads still blather on about disliking Americans by Canadians. While you may want to overlook the very reasoning why billions dislike America, millions of Canadians will not to the same. Get over it, and learn some new phrases to repeat as your old tired ones only make you look like an old 8 track.
Really want to live in peace?Then why don`t you?
What about your Nazi involvement?Where does all the hate come from in you yanks.Why are you so violent towards the world?
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Of course you do, it serves your vanity. It doesn’t matter if its incorrect or not. Whether or not some boob chimes in immediately afterwards and compares the statement to “Nazi-like propaganda” doesn’t mater either. I think it’s a Canadian disease now, seeing things only as you want to see them. <br />
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Anti-Americanism has been up there for years. It has been used by your liberal politicians to demagogue issues and lead you around by the nose. It short circuits legitimate debate and rational thinking and enables them to sell whatever scheme they have to stay in power as a fight to protect your precious sovereignty, its bullshit being sold to the easily lead.<br />
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>>Unfortunately, many of them have been brainwashed and have supported the Bush agenda of conquering and killing around the world.<<<br />
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1) “Conquering and killing around the world.” Hasn’t been on any campaign platform that I have seen. The war on terrorists is one that needs to be fought. The people we are fighting are your enemies too, whether or not you appease them. <br />
2) Is anyone who disagrees with you “brainwashed”? Could it be that someone else looked at the evidence and came up with a different conclusion? <br />
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>> The majority of Americans haven't woken up to the fact that their country has become a police state and their rights and freedoms under the Patriot Act are becoming non existent.<<<br />
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While I am no fan of the patriot act, to say that we are in a police state further betrays your complete ignorance about the USA. <br />
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>> Perhaps after seeing 1600 body bags returned from Iraq, and hearing about 100,000 Iraqi civilian lives lost, they'll come to their senses.<<<<br />
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That study with the 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed has been so widely refuted only the biggest liars still quote it. I hope for your sake that on some level you realize that that the information that you have chosen to believe has been sold to you by people who have an agenda. <br />
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“”That number is 98,000. But read the passage that cites the calculation more fully:<br />
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We estimate there were 98,000 extra deaths (95% CI 8000-194 000) during the post-war period.<br />
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Readers who are accustomed to perusing statistical documents know what the set of numbers in the parentheses means. For the other 99.9 percent of you, I'll spell it out in plain English—which, disturbingly, the study never does. It means that the authors are 95 percent confident that the war-caused deaths totaled some number between 8,000 and 194,000. (The number cited in plain language—98,000—is roughly at the halfway point in this absurdly vast range.)<br />
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This isn't an estimate. It's a dart board.””<br />
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<a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/">http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/</a><br />
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>>You mention in the article that Americans share the same values as Canadians. The democracy and freedom you will find in the U.S. is pretty much an illusion as I have mentioned,<<<br />
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Well, it’s a pretty good illusion then; you see we don’t have ”press bans” of information that is critical of our government. I would be embarrassed and horrified if I had to go to a Canadian website to find out the details of the latest liberal scandal. There is still information out there that the government has said that you can’t have. We don’t have the equivalent of “cancon “ rules which mandate that every 3rd song on the radio has to be by Corey Heart or Gordon Lightfoot. There is a petty liberal bureaucracy telling you what you can listen to, watch on TV or even read in your papers. My government hasn’t put limitations on my right to defend myself, yours has. The USA doesn’t autocratically seize people’s property by eminent domain without just compensation like yours does. I can speak whatever language I want without some bureaucrat telling me what language I can be educated in. You have police beating the crap out of people protesting the seal clubbing. (Never mind the clubbing to begin with.) I could go on and on here. <br />
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>>as President Putin stated on 60 Minutes, you can't "export" democracy like it was a commodity.<<<br />
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Japan, South Korea, Germany as well as others would disagree. Its interesting who you will cite in order to try to make your point. Of course Putin says that, he is a modern day Czarist who laments the demise of the Soviet Union. He has just seen American money and influence at work in the Ukraine and the Baltic States and soon he will see the same thing happen in Georgia. <br />
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>>The United States actually does the opposite of what it says it does. It will, and has supported brutal dictatorships in the world as long it is in American interests. Then they play the "democracy and freedom card" for whatever it's worth.<<<br />
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And Canada does? <br />
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>>The Bush cabal is run by criminals with no conscience, who place no value on human life. There are countless examples of this. I'm certainly not interested in sharing any of their values, thank you very much.<<<br />
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Spoken like another smug, sanctimonious Canadian hypocrite. If you want to look at an administration run by petty criminals look no further then your own. God, its pathetic. You are in the middle of a scandal that hopefully will put this merry bunch of thieves in jail and all you can whine on about is the USA. Cant you focus on anything else other then your favorite scapegoat? <br />
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>>.Remember, the citizens of the United States are spending 50% of every federal tax dollar to pay for past, present and future military expenses. Their military budget is set for $500 Billion for 2005. That's not a value I support either.(see my recent post on this)<<<<br />
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Canada has been under American protection for decades, you better prey we keep funding our military. Its “not a value you support” yet you are certainly willing to enjoy the benefits of it. More hypocrisy. All these lavish social programs that are more representative of your values, like giving out crack pipes and lip balm to “prevent hiv,” (As you well know, you smoke crack, not inject it) How do you think you would fund them if you had to fund your military? If it weren’t for the bastards you could kiss it all goodbye. You sound like a tic on a dogs ass complaining that he doesn’t share the same values as the dog does. <br />
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>>The American agenda is to form the United States of North America, of which Canada will be a part.<<,<br />
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Whatever, If we wanted to subjugate you what would stop us? No one has ever been able to answer that here. If we wanted to subjugate you why would we be leaving 65 billion US trade surpluses in Canada? Most of your economy? But you will believe what you want to wont you? <br />
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>>Look for more efforts by the Americans and the CIA to upset our government in Canada and create unrest.<<,<br />
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Canadians do a fine job of that on their own. Do you think the CIA is behind the petty thievery of your government? <br />
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>>They want us to be in a state of turmoil, so they can bring on the amalgamation, just as the countries in Europe have formed the European Union.<<<br />
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Yeah, right. We are after your “milk in plastic bag” technology. <br />
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You had better readjust the tinfoil hat, “turmoil” creating mind waves are being beamed to you through your TV via old Beachcombers reruns. <br />
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Every time you complain about the moderators, god kills a kitten.