If You Don't Want Those Results...Use A Different Recipe!

Posted on Monday, January 16 at 01:49 by whelan costen
Rather than just rejecting the party system, why not reject the parties that are rejecting the democractic process? The electoral ACT was created by the big parties, so it stands to reason they benefit most by the ACT. Section 550 prevents the people from recall, and prevents any election promise from being enforced. So what is the point of the campaign? How will we get real proportional representation if we elect parties that are not for it? We must change, as we know they will not! by Catherine Whelan Costen Canadian Action Party President Macleod Riding Candidate www.canadianactionparty.ca

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  1. Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:02 pm
    I have been voting for years hoping that we would get political reform and each vote I seem to get further away from getting results.

    CAP are never going to be a party that will get elected, the Green Party and the NDP will never get in a position of power where we will get political reform, and my voting for anty party will only make their party bank account $1.75 richer.

    The only choice for me is to join the millions of other, like Wayne Coady is going to do in this election and not vote, this is one sure way that I will know I have not supported the present corrupt system.

    Think about it, party corruption has been going on as far back as Sir John A MacDonald and every election since we have been under the impression that when we vote out the corrupt party we are holding them accountable. Not the case all we have been doing is voting in a new party that will corrupt our government.

    Take all of the three main federal and provincial parties, as Wayne has asked Dave ruston , give him one of those three who have not been involved in corruption, Dave cannot.

    The Canadian Action Party and the Green Party can lay claim to not having been involved in any political scandal, but face it, hell will more likely freeze over before either party will ever be in a position where they can either bring about change.

    Political Parties are a dying cause these days, more and more young people who are concerned belong to special interests groups who seem to be in a better position to bring about change than CAP or the Green Party are. I hear from my two girls that they are disgusted with the actions or lack of action political parties bring to the country.

    Canadians such as myself and Wayne have had it with the corruption and we are not about to excuse it by saying "oh well ever country has a corrupt political system" , that is not what we in Canada should be all about. Why play follow the leader , why not be a leader when it come to putting in place a political system that is truly held accountable to the citizens who give the elected a mandate to govern?

    I will not vote, I will deny them of a $1.75 , I will nolonger support a corrupt non accountable political system that does not respect the very people who foot the bills here in Canada. I want reform and I want every Canadian to have a say in these reforms.

    Voting changes nothing and that is a proven fact, we are still forced to pay taxes and we are still forced to put up with a corrupt party system, these political parties have to much power for the size of their membership.. they have become little dictatorships, with one hell of a pile of power over the majority. Political parties are out of control !!

  2. Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:02 pm
    <<The Canadian Action Party and the Green Party can lay claim to not having been involved in any political scandal, but face it, hell will more likely freeze over before either party will ever be in a position where they can either bring about change. >>

    I wouldn't necessarily group CAP with the Greens. At least the Green Party is on the radar screen. And they have a possibility (long shot) of capturing a seat - which could be the balance of power.

    Nevertheless, they are similar in that neither party has had the burden of power - and so are perfect at this time. Yet many party members were once members of other parties and they campaign for the votes of people who once voted for other parties, so they too are not made up of a pure infallable species.

  3. Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:10 pm
    I agree and you are so correct they too are not made up of a pure infallable species. Canadians have little say in the present system, until we get real reform and regulations that hold all elected accountable for their action or lack of action we will continue to get screwed by the party system.

    Canadians need a vehicle that will bring those of us who have given up on the election process to come together, to debate the type of political structure will best serve every single Canadian citizen. We must not leave it up to the very few who enjoy the present system, as it works best for that very small percentage which is well under 2% of the Canadian population.

    I think when this type of a political structure rears its ugly head in other countries.. our politicans call them dictators, don't they? Well it is time we in Canada looked within and cleaned up our own house now.

    The power of these political parties in Canada have, is way out of control and they must be brough into check. I keep going back to the point that all political parties make up only less than 2% of the entire voting population which by the last elections numbers was only 62% of the total population that is around 32569394.

    So we have about 38% who do not vote , plus another 60 % who do vote that are not party card carrying members and 2% who vote are party members, imagine the number is even lower when it gets broken down by party and just a small percentage of that 2% are in control of Canada and your destiny or should I say their destiny.

    What we have is a well though out plan by the establishment to make sure they are always in control and always in a position where they can help themselves to your tax dollars at their will. My god surely we are not going to continue down this road are we or are we going to push for plitical reform .. Canadians need this debate and we all must have our say.

    No political party or politican has my vote and they do not represent me, I am a Canadian and I have the right to refuse taking part in this vile useless eliction system, and I hope more Canadian join the million of us who will not vote in protest.

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    Good government is not a party government

  4. Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:59 pm
    >>> If You Don't Want those Results...use a Different Recipe!<<<<<br />
    <br />
    Here’s the recipe that Canada is choosing:<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://english.epochtimes.com/news_images/highres/2005-10-6-harper3.jpg">http://english.epochtimes.com/news_images/highres/2005-10-6-harper3.jpg</a><br />
    <br />
    <br />
    :-D<br />

  5. Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:01 am
    <a href="http://www.theambler.com/images/harper.jpg">http://www.theambler.com/images/harper.jpg</a>

  6. Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:03 am
    <a href="http://www.bradtrost.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_BradUkraineProtest3.jpg">http://www.bradtrost.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_BradUkraineProtest3.jpg</a>

  7. Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:04 am
    Oh. Joy. Bolonga sandwiches again. You know what bologna is made from, right? Lips and .



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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  8. Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:26 am
    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

    IF YOU MUST KILL A POLITICAL SYSTEM , LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE IN CANADA ... JUST DO NOT VOTE. ONCE YOU HAVE STARVE THE PIGS, THEY WILL DIE OFF.

    Do not give political parties your money .. your time and just do not vote.

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    Good government is not a party government

  9. Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:32 am
    As you can tell from my posts on another thread, I don't believe for a second that abstaining from voting will accomplish anything substantive.

    If Winston Churchill had not sought out Hitlers' death, but did nothing, what state would the world be in now?

    If I didn't want to give the parties money, I would go to the polls, and return my ballot in protest instead. No one gets money, and I'm not counted as a 'no show'. *That* is the way to send a message.


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  10. Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:06 am
    By going to the polls, justifies the system that is in place.. I do not. Churchill and Hitler both belonged to political parties and in the end both were found to be corrupt.

    Churchill was not as pure as you might think, he to had his problems, he to could be considered a little dictator. Never the less.. this is Canada and we have a big problem with party corruption and the way "government" is elected, we need to refore the system .. it still only works and represents less than 2% of the Canadian population.

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    Good government is not a party government

  11. Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:23 am
    lay out you plan!

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    "There is no reason good can't triumph over evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the mafia."
    Kurt Vonnegut

  12. Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:57 am
    you are right. they do not influence the elections at all by not voting. canada has no minimum threshold for turnout for an election to be declared invalid. So if only six canadians voted the election would still be legally valid.

    vote for parties that will change the system instead of not voting. the established parties will continue to find money to spend whether you give them your vote or not. the small parties that will enact change need that money to level the playing field.

    not voting is the worst thing you could do to the small parties, and by doing that you only entrench those you want to see gone.

  13. Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:35 am
    >>Oh. Joy. Bolonga sandwiches again. <<<<br />
    <br />
    Here: <br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.foodservicedirect.com/productimageslarge/OT375947L.jpg">http://www.foodservicedirect.com/productimageslarge/OT375947L.jpg</a><br />
    <br />
    Like the rest of us have done, you are going to have to choke it down. While you are doing it I am going to be calling you NEOCON WACKOS...

  14. Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:09 am
    This present system speaks for its self.. it is recorded that we have had far to many political acts of corruption in "our" government.

    It is recorded that there are few Canadians voting in every election.. all because they are sick of a system that lacks accountability and that my friend is no Bolonga sandwiche, it a fact.
    It is a fact that party membership has fallen way off and it is a fact that our youth are turned off, all because they know that even if they vote, they will never matter once the election is over. So why in the hell would anyone want to support a system that does not listen?

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    Good government is not a party government



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