The Simmering Feud Between The U.S. And Canada

Posted on Wednesday, July 06 at 10:00 by jensonj
The antagonism of his government toward Fox News became apparent in recent years when the CRTC readily approved broadcasts of the pro-terrorist Al-Jazeera network on its cable channels while banning Fox News. Fox, perceived as strongly in support of the Bush administration policies in Iraq, had become anathema to Canada's ruling elite. In the run-up to the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, Paul Cellucci, the U.S. ambassador to Canada, publicly rebuked Jean Chretien's government for refusing to join the war on Iraq and criticized the prime minister for allowing a stream of anti-American comments by Liberal MPs to go unpunished. One Canadian paper reported at the time, "In an unusually frank diplomatic critique of Canadian foreign policy, Mr. Cellucci said the federal government had abandoned the United States in a time of need and warned the economic relationship between the U.S. and Canada will suffer as a result." "There is no security threat to Canada that the United States would not be ready, willing and able to help with," Cellucci said in a speech to the Economic Club of Canada in Toronto. "There would be no debate. There would be no hesitation. We would be there for Canada, part of our family. And that is why so many in the United States are disappointed and upset that Canada is not fully supporting us now." Here are just some of the gems Canadian liberals had to say about the U.S. when we needed their help in 2003: Herb Dhaliwal, March 19: "I think the world expects someone who is the president of a superpower to be a statesman. I think he has let not only Americans but the world down by not being a statesman." MP Carolyn Parrish, Feb. 26: "Damn Americans. I hate those bastards." [Referring to her counterparts on the NATO Parlementary Committee] Jean Chretien, Feb. 13: "Great strength is not always perceived by others as benign. Not everyone around the world is prepared to take the word of the United States on faith." MP Colleen Beaumier, Jan. 29: "This is a war against children. No matter how you slice it, there is more to this war than the Bush regime and the Saddam Hussein regime. How many children are we going to kill to replace that regime?" MP Benoit Serre, Jan. 29: "George Bush is very trigger-happy." Francoise Ducros, Nov. 20, 2002: "What a moron." (referring to President Bush) More: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/4/231935.shtml

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  1. Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:42 am
    I had good friends in Colorado who were Canadian. After retirement they went back to Canada to be near their children. Boy, did they get a shock when they experienced the Canadian health care system. It worked so well that my good friend died because they said he had to wait for a proceedure that was not life threatning. I am sure right now he is saying what BS.

  2. Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:31 am
    I'm sorry for your friend but why are they using the Canadian Health care system? Didn't they buy that wonderful cradle to grave US health insurance all their working lives? What...too expensive to pay for in retirement...doesn't cover everything? For your info I meet a few Canadians through the year retiring back to Canada who are buying houses here and many say the health care costs are a major part of their decision to return as many have developed a health problem. Laying in the sun in Phoenix is not a replacement for costly medication and it won't fix your heart. I know a few people who have had knee replacements(me too), hip replacement, a heart bypass operation, and two people waiting for the knee replacement who have had their MRI's. Frankly, I don't know how our system can pay for all this, I guess its relying upon the taxes of the younger,healthy generation working in Canada and paying their taxes.

    This is way off topic though and shouldn't be here.
    Most of us like our US neighbours. I've met some wonderful people down there. The problem is the present foreign policy of the US government, and ours too. Many Canadians, many US citizens, and many people around the world feel that any real democracy they enjoyed is slipping through their hands like sand. Google CBC archive Tommy Douglas Mouseland, and you'll see it's not a new phenomena but its getting even worse due to the economic thrust of Globalization.

    I've got a question for you though, why doesn't the US government make a Declaration of War when they go to war? It's enlightening,

  3. Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:28 am
    The above article blatantly calls Al Jazeera "pro-terrorist" which it is not--but it HAS raised US ire for presenting a variety of perspectives from the region.

    I also think it's inaccurate to imply, as the article does, that Canadians who made "anti-American" comments were not punished. The article should have mentioned the consequences meted to people like Parrish and public outrage over such comments in order to be fair and balanced.

    And then there's this gem: "As NewsMax.com reported then, Canada's liberal press was irked by some of Fox's programming, which allows for a wide spectrum of political opinion no longer found in Canada."

    Ah yes, because it is CANADA'S press that isn't free enough. Silly me. Funny, I was just watching an excellent piece on the (obviously evil liberal biased) Fifth Estate about Fox and similar "journalism" in the US, and how "liberal" perspectives are being shut down and shut out there--and how conservatives like Bill O'Reilly literally lie on camera (one example covered was O'Reilly's claim to Heather Mallick that a US boycott had damaged France, when in fact in that time trade had increased--and the publication he quoted his statistics from does not actually exist).

    Also no mention of concerns about cultural sovereignty and Canadian content--instead competition between the CBC and Fox is characterized as like competition between Ford and GM (both American companies, and both private companies).

    Yellow journalism, to be sure.

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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  4. Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:15 pm
    "Yellow journalism, to be sure."

    I passes this article for that exact reason. As an example of what fuels the simmering feud between our nations. The half truths, the sensational application of partial facts and innuendo, the criticizm of Canadians wanting a truly free press . . .


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill



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