Canada Strong And Free??

"Canada Strong And Free" 1,2,3, and 4? Were they not basically the same as
this 5th rewrite? Or was that the CCCE's report? They're all starting to sound
the same to me. "Wealth Creation, no borders, join missile defence, aid only
those countries that are friendly to capitalism, (although I do agree with our
aid not being "Canadian made", i.e. our wheat is the only aid you'll get).

These guys seem intent on bringing some kind of meaning into what
otherwise were rather "demeaning" political careers. Let's not give them any
more validity now than they had while in politics.



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"The most sustainable product is the one you never bought in the first place."
Alex Steffan

Neoclassical economics at work, as taught in our universities.

The Fraser Inst is a sleazy advertising agency, diguised as a "charitable institution", with $25,000/year, tax deductible memberships.

What these 2 shady characters fail to mention is that the USA is bankrupt and I've never heard of a bakrupt business taking over a healthy one.

Also, that the so called "marketplace" is now nothing more than a battlefield and extortion racket, controlled by the multinatinional corporate mafia and this whole piule of crap is nothing more than the sale of Canada under corporate fascism.

We can also fully expect that our dear Harper is sitting solidly on this bandwagon of his old master.

Ed Deak.

Let me chime in here that experience has shown that any treaties or agreements with the USA aren't worth the paper they're written on, ie. they're worth s..t.

May I mention the softwood lumber "agreement" as an example?

H.F. Wolff

h. f. wolfe says,

"Let me chime in here that experience has shown that any treaties or
agreements with the USA aren't worth the paper they're written on, ie. they're
worth s..t."

I agree, so why do our elected officials grunt, turn red in the face and go teary
eyed as they keep going through the movements over and over again?

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"The most sustainable product is the one you never bought in the first place."
Alex Steffan

Exactly...all you need to do is look at the two losers who
are associated with this work. These guys are just as
credible as those telemarketing creeps who target
seniors to scam them out of their life savings.

Again, when you see a paper titled "Canada Strong and
Free" or some other bulls**t patiotic name, run the
other way. Just another marketing scam to screw
people over.

What the hell has free trade ever done for the average
working guy? Except put his job in jeopardy, of course.

I am to blame!
I and the hundreds of thousands like me who wasted our lives and never took the time to study those areas of our existence that control us.

I speak of law church state and of course those on top of it all, the banker

We all were concerned with other matters and of course we all were brain dirtied by those who took control while we were doing what ever the hell it was we thought so important at the time.

Our enemy, (sorry Catherine, I know how you feel about this topic of ‘enemy’) never sleeps. It is their business to stay in and they do superbly.
It is we who are rarely on guard.
I have asked on these pages many time for support to change this and been ignored by in large so fuck ya!
I post here now for my own purposes




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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp

Any opinion on what the effect would be on the lower houses (both provincial and federal)if the electorate were to vote, en mass, for independent candidates?

I'd hope that the MPs would be so busy sorting out their pecking order that little time would be left for what governments "usually" do: harming the electorate. Wishful thinking, perhaps, but it is ONE action we all could take.

H.F. Wolff

Any opinion on what the effect would be on the lower houses (both provincial and federal)if the electorate were to vote, en mass, for independent candidates?

This could be one for Wayne.
as for my opin, first chaos then tanks

of course the banker would have been spirited away


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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp

I believe there is a post on vive somewhere from truepatriot about an
independant movement, and I think that is a very good first step. No
allegiance to a party, only to the electorate. That is where we need to start; I
don't think there would be tanks, because by the time they figured out what
happened they wouldn't be holding enough power to make a bowel
movement, never mind any other organized decision.

As for Dio's statement, 'Our enemy, (sorry Catherine, I know how you feel
about this topic of ‘enemy’) never sleeps. It is their business to stay in and
they do superbly.
It is we who are rarely on guard.'

I would like to clarify my position on the 'enemy'. I would be a fool if I denied
there are enemies to the freedoms of people, my position is to know they
exist, but not give them too much of my attention and certainly not fear
them. They only have power if we give it to them, and sadly we have given
them a great deal. Fear is their chosen tool. Once we lose the fear we become
powerful. Once we step out and take a stand, vote for who we want to
represent us and make sure they are not only accountable, but that we have
the means to hold them to their decisions. We have not only allowed them to
have free reign with our money, land, resources and very freedoms, but when
they mess up, we turn away, we shun them, we call them names but we do
not hold them accountable in any way that is significant or that is a deterent
to future negative decisions. Those who have held 'power' in this nation for
so many years, are not the elected, but the unelected. We need to hold the
elected accountable for handing over their power, which is only given to them
by us; not taken by them. That is the problem with the equation.

So yes, we have enemies, but no they are not my priority. Finding solutions
and creating a better world are my focus. As far as I'm concerned those who
destroy freedom, and impoverish the masses are not worth my energy
discussing, finding new ways of empowering the masses and freeing people
to live great quality lives is my priority.

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"aaaah and the whisper of thousands of tiny voices became a mighty deafening roar and they called it 'freedom'!"' Canadians Acting Humanely at home & everywhere

Maybe we could start with some civil disobedience, and maybe just maybe we could begin to draw their attention. Not enough people take the time to write and ask these DICKS some questions. I've written to my MP, and MPP Several times on different issues, but you have to write a hand written letter to be taken seriously. I believe emails don't cut it, and don't take any bullshit, if you're not happy with the answer you get ask again and again until you are satisfied with the reply you get. If only more people would become involved I'm sure we would receive an increased level of accountability from these self important bastards.

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frenchy

exactly and in the vein of the raging grannies
street theater


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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp

My reply will take some finesse as I have no desire to agitate.
Please do not confuse respect of their actions with fear of the same.
Believe it or not it is our ignorance (ignoring the clear and always present danger) of not giving the our attention that also feeds them.
It the system they set up in the legal (courts) sense, and this is a crucial point, to not respond equates with acceptance

There is NO ROOM for ignoring their presence or actions

To see only in a dichotomy of fear / strength is to miss the point.

We, you and I, are very close on some of this and the glitch may be in the manner in which we interpret each other

To me fear is the result of the lack of imagination in solving a problem and not to be confused with respecting the problem
I respect your position as far as finding solutions go and I also realize that in finding solution one must first acknowledge the problem.

So , it is a combination of the two that brings about resolution, no?





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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp

Yes Dio; I think there is a balance which is not evident in most articles these
days; rather than report what is goiing on, we instead are given alarms!
People hear the alarm sounding all the time, they live in fear, helpless and
angry. What is needed is disclosure, facts not screaming. At least that is my
sense. Screaming will get people's attention, but when you(I don't mean you
personally) scream and say,
run, hide, they are taking our country, they are taking our freedom etc, but
offer no solution, offer no data, then we have a problem. So what I see is
people who know what's going on, running around in circles saying, 'we have
to tell people, we have to wake people up' etc etc....and then what? That is
my question. Wake them up to do what? It's like the house is on fire, and you
are trapped inside, sleeping soundly, there is no way out, none, you are a
gonner...you will simply sleep your way into death...quietly and peacefully. So
what's the point in waking you up, just so you can panic, scream your way to
death??? But on the other hand, if there is a way out, then yes do please, wake
them up and tell them how to get out, how to save themselves and their
families. And you do it calmly, you speak clearly, firmly and make the path
very plain so no confusion arises in this desperate situation.

We need that same kind of calm, direction and leadership in this county and I
have yet to see it. All I've seen is the screaming. So great, we have really good
screamers, that is the good news, we also have alot of data, detection is key,
we know there is a problem, but where are the solutions. Where is the calm
direction that shows us how to get out of this situation and save our families?

So because I don't see anyone with solutions, anyone who should have the
solutions, I am left believing that they do not want us to get out, that they
have not even considered a plan for saving us! They just want us all
screaming and panicking as we wake up to the horror! That is what I see. No
point in living in fear, the only solution that I see is to calmly plan our way
out.

If you think about some tragic events, whatever they may be, a ship sinking,
an inferno or whatever it might be, the majority of people get out of these
situations when; there is a plan, there is calm, there is direction, there is
leadership. That's what we need in Canada, in 2007.

For starters we need to organize a very public way of objecting to the next
SPP meeting. We know it will be done in secret, in Kananaskis, Alberta, but
seeking to know what is discussed, or trying to find out the exact location
etc, is a bit like closing the barn door after the horse is gone. We need to find
ways to let it be known that these meetings are unacceptable! We will not
tolerate the sell out of our nation. We will not accept it!

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"aaaah and the whisper of thousands of tiny voices became a mighty deafening roar and they called it 'freedom'!"' Canadians Acting Humanely at home & everywhere

It would be so great if Vive le Canada were able to provide a serice wjere I could record to the site my responses
I do so much better orally than with the written word



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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp