Aurora, ON V Belinda Stronach

*sigh* why don't the mods do something about this conservative crap? this is the second time it has been posted; this was a comment that has been copy/pasted off this guys blog. it reminds me of that conservative kid who tried to get michael moore arrested for speaking his mind about the election last year.

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"George Bush has declared the war on terrorism to be the cause of his generation. The cause of Canadian sovereignty will be ours." - John Godfrey, MP for Don Va

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if it isin't an informed one.

In response to abacus, when you vote for an MP you aren't voting for a party, nor are you voting for a gov't or a leader, you are voting for your representative. So all the people that voted for Belinda still have Belinda, there was no fraud here.

<blockquote>Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if it isin't an informed one.</blockquote> Except of course if you criticize the jews, multiculturalism, and equality 'rights' when it's called "hate propaganda".

The people of her riding, if you watched the news, are not happy, and they want to do something about this. When an MP changes sides, there should be a by-election (that would be the democratic thing to do), and bringing an action like this as a test case could push reform.

Besides, there is a whole lot more Liberal crap than Conservative crap these days.

Um, you can criticize people all you want, and you can criticize the country of Israel. But anything that refers to "the Jews", or immigrants as a monolithic group *is* racist, because such statements don't take into account that there are many many sub groups within those.

In much the same way, we stress the distinction between the Bush government, George Bush himself, and the American people. Sweeping generalisations are useless in all of these cases.

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Every time you complain about the moderators, god kills a kitten.

Perhaps the people of Aurora should prove to the rest of us that they actually understand what conservative policies are and what Stephen Harper actually believes in. After all, they have made a democratic contract to make proper efforts to gain such an understanding. Quite frankly, I have yet to hear an opinion from one conservative supporter that demonstrates they have even a minimal grasp of the possible consequences conservative policies may have for this country. On the other hand, I have time and again read letters from the editor in papers from con supporters who when presented with facts of the con policies or Harpers true beliefs simply refuse to acknowledge them and turn to attacking liberal corruption instead. It is not enough to vote against something, we have to understand what we are voting for.

"The mods" acknowledge the fact that Canada includes Conservatives as well, and will give them an equal voice.

As well, if it's a duplicate post, let us know directly instead of complaining in the comments, and we'll see about doing something about it. Thanks.

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Every time you complain about the moderators, god kills a kitten.

God killing kittens is just more crap added to the Liberal crap, added to the Conservative crap, added to all the crap that some bloggers seem to shovel on subjects they know very little to nothing about. May God save us from the crap that is being spread around. My question: Is there any sanity or integrity left in politics or anywhere? If we don't like how politicians lead, let's not vote for them or let's start a recall action to force them out of the leadership role for which they were 'erroneously' chosen. Should it take four years to fire someone who is not doing their job? Actions speak louder than words...

So speaking up in favour of a truly democratic, fair and open system is "conservative crap"?

Make no mistakes about it: this is not about Belinda, but about MPs who change the platform they were elected on and that there should be a mandatory by-election in such cases. Anything short of that is undemocratic. Are you trying to tell us that Liberals want such an undemocratic system? If so, you have just made my decision easier who to vote for next time.

<blockquote>Um, you can criticize people all you want, and you can criticize the country of Israel. But anything that refers to "the Jews", or immigrants as a monolithic group *is* racist, because such statements don't take into account that there are many many sub groups within those.</blockquote> <br><br> See, I told you. <br><br> The only generalizations being made are those made by people of this person's ilk who say that generalizations are being made. <br><br> Indeed, this person's complaint is so full of presumptions it makes one wonder if the paranoid aren't actually right. Is there a conspiracy to infest Canada with undesirables and discredit those who object as racists? <br><br> He says that complaining about "immigrants as a monolithic group *is* racist." Really? I'd like to see him justify that one. Even so, who is treating immigrants as a monolithic group? It is his presumption. Except of course the neo-communists who are still trying to fool people into believing that they are democrats and the neo-conservatives who believe in nothing other than their own decadence. <br><br> I would ask that my critic to reveal his own special interests.

Puleeze ... MPs have been doing this for centuries in the English Parliament. Historically, in England in any case, politicians who switch parties have not had much luck at re-election. Canada's record is not much better, but recent elections seem to be reversing that trend. One of the strengths of the Liberal Party has been it has never been really ideologically driven. They are more of an pragmatic party. Liberals look towards practical things, Conservatives tend more to false utopia. Which is rather interesting because Conservatives always advertise their reputability but never deliver. In the last century of government in both the US and Canada, it were the conservatives that destroyed our economies and betrayed their people. Remember it were the Conservatives that betrayed us the last time, what else will they do to us next time? The fact that Mulroney backs Harper gives us every reason to be afraid. But that leads us back to Belinda. Belinda Stronach is a perfect Liberal ... she believes in nothing. At the same time we must also believe in everything she says. She really does believe in Canada, she really does believe in representing her consitutents. She really has become the latest victim of Acton's principle.

Liberals tending to practical things? Such as stealing taxpayers' money? That seems indeed to be quite practical, doesn't it?

The Liberals are not ideologically driven? Just look at health care. They think the Health Act is a Bible or somehting - they keep thumping it hard enough, regardless of whether Canadians die while waiting on the waiting lists.

The Liberals are about the most ideological group in Canada and in most parts of the West.

Don't feed us that baloney. People are not as dumb as Paul Martin would have us all believe. Canadians CAN see through this farce.

By the way: anyone who provides support to bankrobbers becomes an accomplice after the fact and thus also a criminal. The same is true for those that keep singing the praises of the post-1993 Liberals.

Personally, I was fine with the pre-1993 Liberals, but since Chrétien, this party is nothing but a mafia.

i object to your using the term mafia, that is racist too. lol