We're Not In Iraq -- And The Sky Hasn't Fallen, Either

It's a travesty Martin is breaking with tradition by assigning a politician to the top diplomatic spot in the Canadian Embassy in Washington. Career public servants in teh foreign service are much better suited to the position.

Another Martin innovation.

Good find, and just like wmd's the chicken littles will not admit they were wrong. They just keep on a'cluckin!

Big surprise.

Oh that's right, for Canadians it's all about how we can make money regardless of how people in other countries suffer. No, our cozy little sky hasn't fallen.

The Iraqis themselves may take a more personal view of how Canada could care less about them when they start issuing their own contracts however. Iraqis may look at our support for the United Nations oil-for-palaces scam, and our non-opposition to Saddam Hussein, and think to themselves - screw those Canadians.

It probably won't make a whole lot of difference to the Canadian economy. But, some Canadian business will get shut out and the show of business support posted here won't make any money.

Another anon who once again spouts off without knowing the facts, and if they do, leave them out.

The outgoing iraqi puppet government which under international law are not allowed to sign long term contracts are about to sign privatization deals with foreign oil companies. Just before the new government comes to power. Just a left over present of the Bremmer cabal.

Yep, you americans sure are helping out the Iraqi people.

Maybe you could try thinking thinking things through completely before you start commenting. The reality is that Iraqi's are not in control of their economy. It is the Americans who are making every economic decision for them and likely will for years to come after making sure that the Iraq constitution is written to favor American economic thought, which will just happen to favor private American corporations taking over all of Iraq's nationalized oil industry.

The truth is that when asked the Iraqis see the American presence in their country for what it is, an occupation, and they want the US out.

Funny, though, that you expect the Iraqis will ignore your material support for Saddam and the $8 billion you've stolen from them since you invaded. (Not to mention the cultural treasure you've heisted and auctioned off if portable and blown up otherwise.)

speaking of bottom line economics, Japan circa 1930's needed imports to maintain and grow its burgeoning imperialism. They had previously invaded Manchuria and China, and now had their sites set on points further south and east. Japan was in desperate need of 'raw materials' and went to war with the USA when those raw materials were cut off by FDR.

I hear a lot of talk about how today's USA mimics Nazi Germany, but i'm wondering if Imperial Japan is not a better match.

As for Canada, are we to be set up as the new Manchuria candidate? To take this scenario a step further. Once the USA is ruined from war, say around 2015, the next bloodbath becomes a divided Canada. split into factions, one controlled by China, the other controlled by Europe.

WW2 fallout, North and South Korea

WW3 fallout, North and South Canada
with perhaps, the demarcation near the Ontario/Manitoba border.

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Interesting theory. I am disturbed by the UN, NATO.

However, could you respond to these three obstacles:

1 - Canada's huge size geographically,

2 - Canada's skeptical population.

3 - Canada's geographic isolation.

I realize that Canadians would never see this coming, but does Canada not have a history of overcoming obstacles?

Even the U.S. does not have the military resources to sustain operations in such a big territory, and Europe and China are still years away militarily.

2015 is only 10 years away, so I would like to hear how you think those two entities could pull such a huge land grab off against a population that would be quite pissed off.

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

At least he's not Martin's nephew.

People seem to be missing one point. The fact that canada was involved in Iraq, first by providing weapons, second, providing airspace, third, providing air fuel, fourth, providing naval ships, and fifth, providing,albeit a small force which operated with the american. These are 'non-combat' operations, however, they are still integral to a military operation. The only think lacking was Canada's PUBLIC support for the war, which is what america wanted to counter the international outcry.

No doubt that that course is better than the full fledged integration into war crimes such as Bosnia and Afghanistan, however, using those latter and Haiti as examples, canadians certainly can provide minimal 'moral high ground' to the arguments. The fact is, we canadians have zero power in where our forces go, and canadians seem to forget that average americans have about the same amount of power over their forces.

The anon is not that far off, however, when Saddam was in power Canada certainly didn't raise a fuss, just as they don't in Indonesia or China or just about any other place where we do business. An interesting study is the canadian government during the last days of the apartheid regime in South Africa and I encourage everyone to research it. If there ever were to be a future Iraq for Iraqi's Canada certainly isn't going to nominated as a patron saint. While we aren't as bad as america, that by no means makes us good.